william barnes.....

watty37 · Post by **watty37** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:00 pm

first time in this forum don't think i really understand it yet but guess ill get used to it.
im trying to find any imformation about my grandad william barnes born 1895 hawick i think,not sure on exact place of birth.
how do i go about it any help please.
hazel

watty37 · Post by **watty37** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:08 pm

watty37 wrote:first time in this forum don't think i really understand it yet but guess ill get used to it.
im trying to find any imformation about my grandad william barnes born 1895 hawick i think,not sure on exact place of birth.
how do i go about it any help please.
hazel

he married margaret milne in 1921 in gateshead tyne and wear thats all i got.

CatrionaL · Post by **CatrionaL** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:55 pm

Hi Watty

A warm welcome to Talking Scot.

I had a look at the Scotland's People Site.

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Could find no birth of a William Barnes in the whole of Roxburghshire from 1890 to 1900. I tried putting in just the name Barnes with no given name and got one hit for the town of Hawick itself.

There are however 10 hits for Barnes (no given name) births between 1890 and 1900, perhaps siblings. Barnes isn't a common name in that part of the world. Have no credits left so can't view them.

Perhaps you would like to go to the Scotlan'd People Site and look for yourself. A birth certificate will give you his parents names.

Best wishes

watty37 · Post by **watty37** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:39 pm

thanks for the help im sure he was born in scotland have checked the england census no joy and my mother says he was born in scotland.
is this not the right site i should be on .
thanks ever so much for the help.
hazel

WilmaM · Post by **WilmaM** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:21 pm

You should be able to find your grandfather on the 1901 census in either England or Scotland.

I gather you have looked at the England one on http://www.1901censusonline.com/ or somewhere similar.
Without any results.

To look for him in Scotland in 1901 you will have to go to Scotland's People [ link at top of this page] that's the Offical Records Office for Scotland. It's basaed on a pay per view method of payment.

If you find him there, you can then look on the same site for his birth and as that will give his parent's names and perhaps marriage details , you can then go on back from there [ assuming that they are Scots as family legend would have it].

One factor to remember is that Barnes could also be spelled Barns.

If you find any problems in using that site, do get back to us and we'll try and help you navigate it.

watty37 · Post by **watty37** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:34 am

thanks very much for all your help are you able to buy vouchers for the scotish census at the library like you can for england and wales census.thanks again.
hazel

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:08 am

watty37 wrote: thanks very much for all your help are you able to buy vouchers for the scotish census at the library like you can for england and wales census.thanks again.
hazel

Hazel

No, I'm afraid not, - you have to register online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk , then buy credits in multiples of 30/£6.

David

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:42 am

Hazel

Was about to go and have my breakfast but thought that I'd have a "quick" look at this situation.

The probable family is very easy to find in the 1901 census, as is the birth register entry for the 6 year old son William, except that this matching birth record shows him as illegitimate !!, which is a wee bit confusing to begin with until a wee bit of digging shows that the parents of this "Son" William were married quite young.

This is the same family in the 1881 census..

Dwelling: Faughhill
Census Place: Bowden, Roxburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0224039 GRO Ref Volume 783 EnumDist 1 Page 13
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John BARNES M 26 M Morebattle, Roxburgh, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Lab
Jemima N. BARNES M 25 F Lauder, Berwick, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Hellen H. BARNES 7 F Wilton, Roxburgh, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Margaret BARNES 5 F St Boswells, Roxburgh, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Robert N. BARNES 1 M Bowden, Roxburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son

By 1901 the then 25 year old Margaret is off working away from home. Were I a betting man I'd put a large amount of money on wee William being more correctly described as the grandson of the couple shown in the 1901 census and above.

Lauder, Berwickshire, is some distance north of Hawick, but the father was a ploughman at marriage (nae bad for 19!), who moved around a bit, and had graduated to "Steward", - I'd imagine that this is the equivalent of the Mearns "grieve" in 1901. At the time of their marriage, he was living in the parish of Bowden, his bride in the parish of Wilton, which borders Hawick parish to the north.

Now off for my breakfast !!

David

watty37 · Post by **watty37** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:09 pm

thanks ever so much for all your help.
hope you enjoyed your breakfast.
iam now gonna study the imformation you have sent.thanks
Hazel.

watty37 · Post by **watty37** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:21 pm

It been a while since I have been on the forum would like to say thank for the help and to say I have found out alot about my grandad even to have papers and pictures sent from a police sargent THANK YOUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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thanks david

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