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[Wanda Stevenson]

I've hit a brick wall in my family tree search (or I've fallen out of the tree) Need help finding John Stevenson born around 1819 I think married Isabella Muirhead in 1845 date of death unknown. I THINK his parents were John Stevenson and Jean Walker, but aren't sure (no record of his birth). Also can't find his father's birth. Checked 1841 census for Barony and Glasgow city, but there are 45 thousand John Stevenson! PLEASE HELP before I go completely mad.............

[LesleyB]

Hi Wanda
It won't help with the number of John Stevensons but it might help with the potential cost....Freecen is always worth a try! http://www.freecen.org.uk/

Best wishes
Lesley

[Jack]

Hi Wanda,
This is the nearest i can see, but no more details.
The names are from the 1841 census index issued by the http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
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1841 cens 622 Ed 227 p 6 (Barony - Milton)
John STEVENSON 58
Jane 59
Matthew 30
Agnes 25
John 20
David 18
--and possibly with them are--
John CAMPBELL 4
Margaret McMILLAN, abt 1
--
Jack

[Jack]

Hi Wanda,
With help from Lesley in reminding me of FreeCEN....
Was your John a Candlemaker? I do hope so, otherwise it's going to be rather difficult in finding him!
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1841/622 Place: Barony-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 13
Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Milton
Folio: 227 Page: 6
Address: Clyde Street
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
STEVENSON John M 58 Labourer Lanarkshire
STEVENSON Jane F 59 Lanarkshire
STEVENSON Mathew M 30 Labourer Lanarkshire
STEVENSON John M 20 Candle Maker Journeyman Lanarkshire
STEVENSON David M 18 Candle Maker Apprentice Lanarkshire
STEVENSON Agnes F 25 Lanarkshire
CAMPBELL John M 4 Lanarkshire
MCMILLAN Margret F 1 Lanarkshire
--
Jack

[Caroline]

I THINK his parents were John Stevenson and Jean Walker, but aren't sure (no record of his birth).

Hi Wanda,

Just wondered why you thought his mother might be Jean Walker?

I searched on the IGI for John and Isabellas children and it came up with the following which you no doubt have already.

1. SARAH STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 31 MAY 1862 Milton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

2. ROBERT STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 JUL 1847 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

3. ISABELLA STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 FEB 1860 Blythswood, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

4. MATTHEW STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 APR 1858 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

5. JEAN WALKER STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 JAN 1850 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

6. JOHN STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 05 APR 1846 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

7. MARGARET DONALDSON STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 09 MAR 1852

8. MARGARET DONALDSON STEVENSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 APR 1852 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

However if John and Isabella were following the traditional naming pattern thus naming their second eldest daughter after the fathers mother wouldn't that mean that Johns mother was more likely to be Margaret Donaldson rather than Jean Walker?

Just a thought!

Caroline

[Wanda Stevenson]

Hi there;
Thanks for the info. I do have this family, in fact Robert is my ggrandfather, anyway, did wonder about Margaret Donaldson, checked IGI and there wasn't a Margaret married to a Stevenson, so checked and there was a Jean Walker who married a John Stevenson, so I assumed that that John and Jean were the ones I was looking for. If I'm wrong I may slit my wrists (just kidding)
Thanks for your help
Wanda

[Jack]

Hi Wanda,
It might be useful to get the DC of your GG-GF John STEVENSON (b1819).
Then you should know if his mother is Jean/Jane WALKER...
...who might've died just prior to Jean Walker Stevenson's birth in Jan 1850?
Thereby altering any naming pattern, and Jean named after her recently deceased granny?
But this is pure speculation.
I don't know when Jean Walker died, but i can't see her with any certainty in 1851.
(when, if still living, would've been around 70yrs old)
Jack

[Liz Turner]

Hi Wanda

(and Jack and Lesley - long time no see!)

Had 9 credits left on SP so looked for marriage of John Stevenson to Isabella Muirhead as mentioned by you above - found it 11 Feb 1845 Barony, Glasgow. Hope I've not misread your post and taken you off on a wild goose chase! If I've got the right people, hopefully have found Isabella's death in 1865 in Blythswood, Glasgow. Her husband John Stevenson was still alive at that point as he notified her death. Her address was 163 Cowcaddens Street, Glasgow.

Isabella's parents seem to be Robert Muirhead, City Porter, and Margaret Yuill. Her parents could well be Robert Muirhead and Margaret Yuill.

John Stevenson was a foreman Soapboiler - so that could be candlemaking Jack???

I've got no credits left today, but can't find a death for John Stevenson, which must have been after 1865...... there are a few possibilities in the 1851 Census, but I've no credits left. Definitely worth a look on Freecen. Finding John's death would be a major breakthrough as hopefully one of their children would have notified it.

Also check the 1851 Census for John Stevenson and his wife Isabella who should be there somewhere with sons John b5/4/1846 and Robert b 26/7/1847, and daughter Jean Walker Stevenson b 2/1/1850.

Any information about who Robert Stevenson married/date he married??


Liz

[Jack]

Hi folks,
These from the CD census indexes issued by http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
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1851 cens 622 (573) Ed 8 p 12 (Barony - Milton)
John STEVENSON, 31
Isabella, 28
John, 5
Robert, 4
Jean, abt 1
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1861 cens 644-6 Ed 55 p 14 (Blythswood)
John STEVENSON, 42, b Glasgow, LKS
Isabella, 39, b Glasgow, LKS
John, 15, b Glasgow, LKS
Robert, 13, b Glasgow, LKS
Jane, 11, b Glasgow, LKS
David, 6, b Glasgow, LKS
Matthew, 3, b Glasgow, LKS
Isabella, abt 1, b Glasgow, LKS
--
John Stevenson was a foreman Soapboiler - so that could be candlemaking Jack???
Hi Liz, huvnae a clue...
--
Jack

[Liz Turner]

See from Jack's list from the 1861 census that there's a David aged 6 - he doesn't appear in the list from Family Search site, but would fill the "gap" between other known children. At the 1861 census, Margaret and Sarah have yet to be born....

Wanda - it might very well be worth searching the SP site for marriages of the sons of John & Isabella, as you might pick up information from them.

Just on the off chance I had a look at the wills index on SP, but nothing obvious jumped out.

Liz

PS - I wonder if it's a big jump from making soap to making candles??