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You can't take anything for grated .....

Post by sheilajim » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:47 am

Hi All

I keep on learning that you can't take anything for granted in Genealogy. I learned it again not too long ago.

My mother had a favorite uncle, Hugh Boyd McLaren, her mother's brother. She talked about him often, but got out of touch with him when she went to Canada, especially during WWII, when absolutely nothing was heard of from any of her relatives in Scotland, because of the censors. :x

I found his birth Cert easily. Born Paisley, 1883, mother Agnes Boyd, father Henry McLaren, same as my grandmother.

I decided to look for his death on SP. I easily found a Hugh Boyd McLaren died 1945, in Paisley, age 62. Correct age. I was surprised that he had died in 1945, though, because Mom talked about him in the late 50's as though he was still alive. Deciding that she must have been mistaken, I paid the 5 credits. This had to be him.

When I looked at the Death Cert- There sure enough was the Father listed as Henry McLaren, Dyer- But the mother was listed as Elizabeth Boyd! What was this? :shock: Looking a little further, he was listed as a widower of Lily Frame. I had never heard of her. Agnes Boyd did have a sister Elizabeth, but this was not the correct person.

This Hugh Boyd McLaren was not my mother's uncle, even though almost everything else fit exactly, age, father's name, being a Vet of WWI, living in Paisley.

If the mother of the dead person had not been included, I would have assumed it was him.
Just goes to show that you can't jump to conclusions. :roll:

Regards

Sheila
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Post by Rab » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:05 pm

Too true Shelia. It's amazing the amount of information we take as read passed down to us from our elders. We all are told stories as we grow up and those have no doubt gathered arms and legs over the years.

Since my interest in researching my family I have quashed many a family myth. To be honest it's been quite disappointing. My roots were alot more colourful before I started to investigate them. Now they are quite bland in comparison. :cry:

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Post by emanday » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:21 pm

Rab wrote:Too true Shelia. It's amazing the amount of information we take as read passed down to us from our elders. We all are told stories as we grow up and those have no doubt gathered arms and legs over the years.

Since my interest in researching my family I have quashed many a family myth. To be honest it's been quite disappointing. My roots were alot more colourful before I started to investigate them. Now they are quite bland in comparison. :cry:
Yeah! That would be like my "Clipper Ship Captain" Great Grandfather who turned out to have been a steamship stoker. :roll:
[b]Mary[/b]
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McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

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Post by carmentea32 » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:49 pm

Same here! My "engineer on the railways" great grandfather was in fact a Stoker !

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Post by mallog » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:16 pm

Aw don't say that !! The person who posted my Banns inflated my job by quite a bit ! I was mortified. Goodness knows what future generations will say about me :oops:

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Post by emanday » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:33 pm

Actually, it can work the other way too :D

My Father-in-law was shown as a Clerk on my late husband's BC when, in actual fact, his proper title was "Cultural Attache" with the British Consulate in Turkey! This was during WW2 and it is no secret within the family that his job had absolutely nothing to do with culture :shock:

...and, NO, his name was not Bond, James Bond 007 :lol:
[b]Mary[/b]
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McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

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Post by joette » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:52 pm

yep or presume that because you have been told by a rellie that it is true. You have been told had six or whatever children & then a look at the Census reveals they had in fact ten or two.
I recently discovered my Great-Granny was one of ten? & I would have discovered that long ago if I had read the next page on the Census where another three children were lurking.
My Father's occupation is different on all five children's births but that is correct as his job changed.
Last edited by joette on Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:28 pm

My father in law spoke about his father being the station master at Aviemore. Censuses show he was a railway labourer :lol:

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Post by Davie » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:49 pm

On my first born birth certificate, his Faither's occupation is "Omnibus Pilot" (Corpy bus driver )
I had instructions frae the wife, as to what the wean was to be called, middle name anaw. (efter her Da)
After a few hawfs wey three cronies, who had accompanied me on the serious business o' registering yer child in Martha Street.
Decided, (with support, frae ma freens) that I was the person who wore the troosers in ma hoose, and wid decide whit MY child would be called.

This is not a recommended practice for any new Father to adhere to.
Especially if you want yur missus to talk to you in the ensuing months, or refraining from bringing up the subject of yer idiocy, at every faimily getherin' for the next forty years.

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Post by joette » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:05 am

What was he supposed to be called & how far did that differ from what he was actually named?
:lol: :lol: :lol: I can just picture the scene & omnibus pilot that's wonderful :lol:
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins