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[Scottishlass]

[Jack]

Hello Scottishlass,

I don't know if you have all these, but this may be Martha as a widow in 1881 - with her brother? John.
Where does the DAVIDSON name come in?
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1881 Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: No 21 Meuse Lane
Source: FHL Film 0203646 GRO Ref Volume 644-5 EnumDist 37 Page 14
John CLEMENTS M 30 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Spindle Maker
Agness CLEMENTS M 26 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife
Mary CLEMENTS 5 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Jane CLEMENTS 5m F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Martha CLARK W 40 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Stay Maker
Patrick CLARK 12 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar
James CLARK 10 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar
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Can't see a marriage for William & Martha - the BCs should say when & where. But who's to say it's true....

JOHN CLARK Birth: 24 DEC 1861 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: WILLIAM CLARK
Mother: MARTHA MCCLEMONT
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WILLIAM CLARK Birth: 05 JUL 1863 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: WILLIAM CLARK
Mother: MARTHA MCCLEMONT
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ROBERT CLARK Birth: 20 MAR 1865 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: WILLIAM CLARK
Mother: MARTHA MCCLYMONTS
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PATRICK CLARK Birth: 23 AUG 1867 Calton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: WILLIAM CLARK
Mother: MARTHA MCLYMONT
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JAMES CLARK Birth: 25 SEP 1870 Girvan, Ayr, Scotland
Mother: MARTHA CLARK
[this seems to be the only suitable James with a mother Martha to fit the age of 10 in 1881 - but not born Glasgow]
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The children of William CLARK & Martha are found by doing a "Parent Search" in the IGI.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

Leave blank the First Name / Last Name
In the Father / Last Name box at top right - type in father's name
In the Mother / Last Name box - type in mother's forename (at least)
Select in Event - Birth/Christening
The Year Range, Region, Country, County if you know them can help narrow down the number of results.

In the case of Martha no surname was entered because of the very different spellings of her name - but a surname can be used.
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Jack

[Scottishlass]

the different names came from birth, marriage and death

[Jack]

Hi Scottishlass,

Here's Martha in 2 of the censuses - unfortunately her mother of the same name has died 1851 to 1861. But even if this was after 1855 it might be a bit difficult to find her - the married name (as you know) can be spelled in very many ways....
Father William is as 45 on both censuses. The surname spellings were McClenent & Clemens.
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1851 cens 622 (592) Ed 3 p 26 (Barony - Calton)
32 New Street.
William McCLENENT, head, marr, 45, weaver, b Ireland
Martha McCLENENT, wife, 40, stay maker, b Ireland
Martha McCLENENT, daur, 9, ------- b Glasgow
Isabella McCLENENT, daur, 2mos, ---- b Glasgow
Elizabeth KERR, lodger, widow, 50, winder, b Glasgow
Elizabeth DONALD, lodger, 9, ----- b Glasgow
Jean DONALDSON, lodger, marr, 45, hand loom weaver, b Glasgow
&
1861 644-4 Ed 66 p 6 (Calton)
50 King Street.
William CLEMENS, head, widower, 45, cotton weaver, b Ireland
Isabella CLEMENS, daur, 9, ------ b Barony
John CLEMENS, son, 7, -------- b Barony
William CLARK, son-in-law, marr, 36, agricultural labourer, b Ireland
Matty CLARK, daur, marr, 21, ladies stay maker, b Glasgow
John McALINDEN, boarder, widower, 46, cotton weaver, b Ireland
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Meant to say, you could maybe try to find young Martha's 2nd marriage to the Mr Davidson. Or her DC in the hope that the informant knew who her mother was. Or even father William's DC - hoping that his wife Martha's maiden name was known.
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Jack

[DavidWW]

Jack's done the hard work here.

I'd be near certain that the 1881 census is the correct one.

The birth register entries for Robert shows November 1860 Glasgow as the place and date of marriage, while Patrick's shows October 1860 Glasgow, but there is no trace of such a marriage register entry.

If you look for a 6 year old Robert in the 1871 census you will quickly locate the family. Look then for the death of a William, aged 40 to 50 in Glasgow City only, and you will soon find his death.

Davie

[Scottishlass]

Thanks Jack and David for you help it has helped in putting some of the peices I have here together. I know the time involed I spent many hours in Glasgow finding what I now have.

[DavidWW]

Correct Robert's birth was 13 march 1865 this is where I was able to get the nov date of marriage for William Clark and Martha Clymonts, on Robert's marriage the name becomes Clemens and on Robert's death in jan 31 ,1930 it's listed as Martha Clark m.s. Davidson deceased.

Defintutely March Twentieth on the birth register entry. Possible that an inexperienced eye might read it as Thirteenth.

Looks like the informant, Robert's wife got the maiden name of her mother-in-law wrong, as there's no evidence of Martha remarrying.

I have no way of getting records here in canada for the 1800's censes other than the 1881 which I have .I tried the scotland web and had difficulties working it so lost any credit I had.

Look then for the death of a William, aged 40 to 50 in Glasgow City only, and you will soon find his death.

Where can I find this imformation on line Please?

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk but it sounds like that's the site where yuo have had problems??

Thanks Jack and David for you help it has helped in putting some of the peices I have here together. I know the time involed I spent many hours last summer in Glasgow finding what I now have.

Nae prob.

Davie