Chancelot or Chance Lot, Edinburgh?.....

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vickory
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Chancelot or Chance Lot, Edinburgh?.....

Post by vickory » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:46 pm

I'm trying to find a place called, in 1861, Chancelot or Chance Lot in or near Edinburgh.
I found one reference that said
"Chancelot, house and garden, Ord.Surv. 1852. " on google cache but I can't access the page live to investigate further.
Has anyone any suggestions please, I'm all googled out.

Also can anyone tell me if it's possible to find the parish of a Roman Catholic priest with nothing other than his name.
Again Edinburgh area 1861, F. Gascoigne.

Thank you,
Regards, Vicki.

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Post by JustJean » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:51 pm

Hi Vicki

Well here is a long shot for you. A search on the 1881 census by "Chancelot" gives two addresses.....and here they are:

Dwelling: Ferry Road Chancelot House
Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0223997 GRO Ref Volume 685-2 EnumDist 42 Page 9
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert THOMSON M 37 M Prestonpans, Haddington, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Foreman Gardener
Jane Melrose THOMSON M 35 F Fala, Peeble, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Foreman Gardeners Wife
Robert M. THOMSON U 10 M Newbigging, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Alexr. THOMSON U 5 M St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar

Dwelling: Ferry Road Chancelot Laundry
Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0223997 GRO Ref Volume 685-2 EnumDist 42 Page 10
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Ann FALCONBRIDGE W 60 F England
Rel: Head
Occ: Laundress
Elizabeth FALCONBRIDGE U 28 F England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Laundress
Harriet KENNELL U 25 F England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Assistant Laundress
Minnie FOSTER U 16 F England
Rel: Serv
Occ: Assistant Laundress
Katie PHILLAN U 19 F Edinr, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Domestic Serv
Mary WOOD U 16 F Edinr, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Domestic Serv
George FALCONBRIDGE U 10 M England
Rel: Grand Son
Occ: Scholar
Lizzie FALCONBRIDGE 6 F England
Rel: (Grand Dau)
Occ: Scholar

Since they both appear to be in Edinburgh there is a hope that it might relate to the information you seek from 20 years earlier!

Sorry but don't know how to find Roman Catholic info but I'm sure someone else will be along to assist! :D

Best wishes
Jean

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Re: Chancelot or Chance Lot, Edinburgh?

Post by DavidWW » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:16 pm

vickory wrote:.....snipped............. Also can anyone tell me if it's possible to find the parish of a Roman Catholic priest with nothing other than his name.
Again Edinburgh area 1861, F. Gascoigne.

Thank you,
Regards, Vicki.
You'll find Frederick in the the 1861 census at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk , along with the name of his church.

Don't worry about the relationship shown to the Head of the household, - it only means that he was living in the same household.

David

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Chancelot

Post by vickory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:37 am

Hello JustJean,
Thank you very much, longshot or not every little bit helps & at least now I know that there was a place called Chancelot & that it may have been in Ferry Rd Edinburgh.

Searching for this let me find a reference to Chanculott House & Gardens in 1827.

Again, many thanks,
Regards, Vicki.

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Re: Chancelot or Chance Lot, Edinburgh?

Post by vickory » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:48 am

Hello David,
I can't use ScotlandsPeople at present but now I know that it's a Frederick Gascoigne that I'm after perhaps I can find his parish or Church.
Thanks very much,
Regards, Vicki.

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Re: Chancelot

Post by nelmit » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:27 pm

vickory wrote:Hello JustJean,
Thank you very much, longshot or not every little bit helps & at least now I know that there was a place called Chancelot & that it may have been in Ferry Rd Edinburgh.

Searching for this let me find a reference to Chanculott House & Gardens in 1827.

Again, many thanks,
Regards, Vicki.
Hello Vicki,

You can see it on this map from 1853.

Annette M

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Post by Thrall » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:55 pm

It brings you back! I used to cycle past, I think, Chancelot Lane off the Ferry Road on my way to school every morning. Would never dream of letting my kids cycle a road like that now, but then my parents didn´t know a lot of what I did so the same applies probably to the next generation.

Vicki: I hope you trace your man.

Good hunting,

Thrall
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Re: Chancelot

Post by vickory » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:02 am

Hello Annette M,

That is just brilliant, thank you so much!
I spent hours searching & found nothing like that, I've bookmarked the site as I'm sure it will be useful as I find more ancestors.

My GGGGrandfather, James FERN/FERANCE & his son, also James, apparently worked as gardeners at Chancelot prior to James Jnr's emigration to Australia in 1862.

I wonder if they may also have lived on the property.

Regards, Vicki.

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Post by vickory » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:47 am

Thrall wrote: Vicki: I hope you trace your man.
Good hunting,
Thrall
Hello Thrall,
Thanks very much, my tracing progresses slowly but takes leaps every now & then... usually with some help from everyone here :D

Seeing Queensferry Rd on the map provided by Annette M I've realised just how small the world sometimes must seem...
My maternal Grandfather was Harold CARTER born Sydney NSW 1899 son of William CARTER & Elizabeth FERN.
William CARTER born in Hay NSW 1865, son of William CARTER & Maria FINLEY.
Elizabeth FERN born in Bundaberg QLD 1874, daughter of James FERN/FERANCE & Elizabeth McIVOR who emigrated to Oz in 1862 from Edinburgh.
Maria Finley born in Queensferry, Perthshire, Scotland c.1839 & emigrated to OZ pre 1864.

I'm going map searching now to see if Queensferry, Perthshire has any proximity to Queensferry Rd, Edinburgh :D

Regards, Vicki.

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Post by AndrewP » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:19 am

Hi Vicki,

Queensferry Road on that map is Ferry Road nowadays - presumably it was the route from Leith to (South) Queensferry. Queensferry Road, Edinburgh is now from Edinburgh city centre towards (South) Queensferry.

North and South Queensferry stand on each bank of the Firth of Forth, where the ferry crossing was from the Edinburgh area to Fife (now replaced by the Forth Bridges). South Queensferry was in West Lothian (until relatively recent boundary changes), and North Queensferry is in Fife. I cannot think of a Queensferry in Perthshire - do you have a parish that it was in, or where it was near to?

All the best,

AndrewP