Renwick Morrison Bell Wares (Ayr Glasgow).....

[b1b2j3]

Thank you folks for helping me recently...um..today. I'd like to find out what happened to Robert Morrison Renwick. Son of David Renwick and Catherine Morrison (ex Muir). Also William his half brother (b. 1871 Glasgow) All I have on Robert is -

Catherine Morrison Renwick. Death- 13.04.1910. Calton, Glasgow. "Married to ist William Muir butcher, 2nd David Renwick, butcher (retired)". Died 152 Duke Street Glasgow. Cause left cerebral heomorrage, sudden-1 day. Witness- Robert Renwick-son. GROS-644/030293. Robert Morrison Drapery Salesman (dec) and Janet nee: Bell Mother.

Robert Morrison Renwick had half sisters & my Great Aunts -Maggie Margaret Wares Muir, Marion Allison (Wares) Muir and a half brother my Great uncle William Morrison Muir. The middle names are all Family names of parents. Thanks Bron

[DavidWW]

Hi Bron

As you probably already know, Robert Adam Morrison RENWICK was born in 1889.

There's no trace of a matching death in the on-line Scottish records for him or his wife, so either they were outside Scotland, or they survived to 1956 or later, perfectly possible given that their ages in 1956 would have been 67 and 68...........

David

[b1b2j3]

Thanks for that...no idea of his birth. Now I can track his Family down. Wasn't Catherine nee: Morrison ex Muir widow RENWICK a wonderful woman. Named all her kids with Family middle names. A brilliant Scot !

I was only thinking of this today, I've not named my son by any of my Scots Family, nor did my Mother. And she's 82. Now I've dug up lots of em (again), Robert, William, James, Anne, John (Irish Ian) & Agnes keep poppin up. I had to chuckle- named my son Jesse. I think Jessie can be an Agnes. Guffawwwww....

Mucho appreciated. Bronwen

[Davie]

Hi again Bron
As you probably noticed on the 1881 census, Catherine gives her birthplace as Ling, Ayr.
Another bum steer I think.
On the 1871 she has Oban and on the 1891, Ling in Argyle, which makes a bit more sense, and again Oban on the 1901.
I have all Morrison-Bell hatches from the OPR and only one Catherine among them
1848 Glasgow: Parents Robert and Janet Bell.

If the above parents are indeed Catherine’s
Why does she constantly give her birthplace as Argyle?

From the PO directory Duke Street in 1893
Sydney street here
166 Rennie J., fruiterer
162 Peden, Miss, stationer
156 M'Minu, A. C, grocer
154 Renwick, D. butcher
152 Wilson, John
Renwick, D.
Miller, Robert
M'Gregor, P. D.
150 M'Coll, D. draper


Renwicks in Glasgow PO directory 1903

REN WICK, Rev. Adam, M.A. (Cowcaddens U.F.
Church), ho. 23 Windsor terrace, N.W.
Renwick, Arthur, commission agent, 93 Hope street;
ho. 13 Randolph place, Mr. Florida.
Rennick, Charles B. (of John Younger), 52 King
St., s.s.; ho. 57 St. Andrew's road.
Renwick, David, butcher, 154 Duke s t ; ho. 152 do.
Renwick, James, janitor, 107 Green st., Calton.
Renwick, James, & Co., Hawick hosiery manufacturers,



On the useless information theme:
The shop at 154 Duke Strret, in 1927 was a butcher shop owned by a M. Masterton, and still a butchers in the 1950s owned by a Mr Scouler.
As you no doubt know by now, tracing a William Muir isnae an easy task.
I have hundreds on file for William and Thomas Muirs.
I am checking my Glasgow records to see if I can find any info on your William’s marriage or death.
None that I can see so far in the East end
Davie

[emanday]

The "Ling" in Argyll is correctly spelt Luing, so you might bear that in mind when you are doing searches. Registrars might have simply written it as it sounded to them.

How do I know this? I lived on Seil, the island you have to cross to get to the ferry to Luing.

To my knowledge there is no Ling in Ayrshire, unless it was a wee village no longer existing.

[Davie]

Thanks Mary
Luing, that makes even more sense
It was just the it was Ling on the census.
As you say, it probably was the enumerator on the returns.
Do you know offhand what Parish Luing is in?
Davie

[emanday]

If memory serves me, it is in Kilbrandon and Kilchattan Parish. The OPR number is 515/1 for Births 1750 - 1819 and Marriages 1753 - 1807, and 515/2 Births 1804 - 1854 and Marriages 1825 - 1854; this from the List of Old Parochial Registers.

Yes, I did download and print it off from GROS Sad, innit

I can't remember if they are listed together on the pick list in SP search or separately. They might even be listed both together and separately.

[AnnieMack]

I have been transcribing cetificates tonight and found a John Renwick who was the Minister at Paisley North Church in 1869 who performed the marriage ceremony for my ancestors.

I don't know any more than that but wondered if he could be one of yours?

Annie

[b1b2j3]

The "Ling" in Argyll is correctly spelt Luing, so you might bear that in mind when you are doing searches. Registrars might have simply written it as it sounded to them.

How do I know this? I lived on Seil, the island you have to cross to get to the ferry to Luing.

To my knowledge there is no Ling in Ayrshire, unless it was a wee village no longer existing.

Thank you Mary, its lovely to have someone give the correct geography. This is a very helpful site. I hope I can help as much in the future. Bron

[b1b2j3]

Thanks Mary
Luing, that makes even more sense
It was just the it was Ling on the census.
As you say, it probably was the enumerator on the returns.
Do you know offhand what Parish Luing is in?
Davie

I did find a West & East Linga Ness in the Shetlands. On Gazetteer .. Please forgive me, in Australia..... is the Shetlands near Luing? I know, I'll look up a map..derr. Bron