Where did they go?

[ninatoo]

Hi all,

I am working on my McCormick/McCormack branch after a break, and I had a bit of success today when I found a marriage for my ggg grandfather's sister Helen, b. about 1845 in England. This gave me the name of her mother, which I did not have.

She married William Oxley (b. about 1840) in Calton, Glasgow in 1871. Before they married they had a daughter Annie in 1869, and after marriage Mary Jane in 1872. After that they disappear. And also I can't find William on earlier censuses, nor reference to his birth at the IGI (his parents were listed as George Oxley and Ann Bennett). I am thinking he was either Irish or English, but it is just a guess.

None of them appeare to have died in Scotland, so I am assuming they immigrated...to where is the question!

Can anyone help me locate them?

Nina

[DavidWW]

I suspect that William's occupation may have had a lot to do with the situation, - "Naval Engineer" on the wedding register entry, and "Engine Smith (Journeyman)" on the 1872 birth register entry, so that he could have well been in the merchant navy, or moved to other ship building centres in the UK and elsewhere.

OXLEY is also one of those awkward surnames where quite differently spelt names can be heard as this spelling, - e.g. HAWKSLEY and HUXLEY.

David

[Davie]

Hi Nina,
The Calton is ma patch.
Ah huv a right few Faimilies oan record.
Only wan Oxley, and that is your William's marriage livin' in the Brig'ate.
Ah, kid mibbie help wey the Bennet's, if it is the same faimily.
None o' yer ain show oan the 1871 census, in the parish, but your Annie is oan the 1881 wan, at the Industrial Girls School, in Glasgow.
Sorry not to be of much more help.
Davie

[ninatoo]

Thansk for your help David and Davie.

David, I tried a few searches using wildcards for the alternative names, but nothing came up...but then I was hoping you were hinting at something you had found???

Davie, I can't get Annie to come up on the 1881 census at SP. Is her name spelled differently?

I wonder if anyone that has an has Ancestry subscription could do a search for the family in England...right now I just can't seem to get to my local LDS centre to check for myself.

Nina

[Anne H]

Hi Nina,

I didn't search SP for 1881 census, but here is your Annie that Davie was talking about... it's from the BIVRI discs.

Institution: "Glasgow Industrial School & Home For Girls"
Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203647 GRO Ref Volume 644-5 EnumDist 69 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Catherine ANDERSON U 12 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Agnes RITCHIE U 12 F Camlachie Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Ruth SLOAN U 9 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Mary CASSIDY U 13 F Barony Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Jane CASSIDY U 9 F Barony Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Mary HENDERSON U 13 F Calton Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Mary B. HENDERSON U 10 F Bathgate, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Catherine CLARK U 10 F Bowmore Islay, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Mary JOHNSTON U 14 F Bowmore Islay, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Susan MC INNES U 14 F Forres, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Jane JOHNSTON U 13 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Mary HILL U 10 F Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Catherine POLLOCK U 11 F Barony Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Annie OXLEY U 11 F Barony Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Grace MORTON U 12 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Margt. GRAY U 10 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Catherine GRAY U 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Margt. POLLOCK U 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Jane IRVINE U 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Jessie GRINDLEY U 11 F Anderston Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Julia GREESIN U 10 F Belfast, Ireland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Agnes MURRAY U 13 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Jessie ANDERSON U 11 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar
Christina MORRISON U 10 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Inmate
Occ: Scholar

Regards,
Anne H

[ninatoo]

Thanks very much Anne. No matter what I tried, I could not get this record to come up at SP, so I sent them a contact letter.

Nina

[Davie]

Hi Nina,
I am not familiar with the Oxley name at all, never mind in the East End of Glasgow.
So I did a wee search on SP.
And came up with a few., which did surprise me.
There was a George, married onto one of the Jamieson family, with a Yuille connection.
That interested me.
On a sadder note, I also found the death record of Mary Jane aged one, in Bridgeton in 1873.
I have downloaded it, if you want it.
Awrabest
Davie

[ninatoo]

Thanks for your help Davie!

Yes it seems the Oxley name was not common in Lanark. I am still hoping someone can help me find them in England or somewhere...seems they did leave Scotland. I think Helen came from Lancashire, but then they could have gone anywhere I suppose.

Thanks again,

Nina

[nelmit]

Hello Nina,

I know the age is way out but have you seen this family from the 1841 census that I found on FREECEN.

Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 72
Civil Parish: Gorbals Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 71 Page: 4
Address: 36 St Ninian Street

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MUNRO Kenneth M 64 Shop Keeper Outside Census County (1841)
MUNRO Margt F 62 England
OXLY Ann F 44 England
MUNRO Barnnet M 29 Tobaconest England
OXLY William M 12 Lanarkshire
OXLY Elizth F 4 Lanarkshire

Annette

[ninatoo]

Hi Nelmit,

No I didn't look at freecen yet for this family. Thanks for finding that entry. That is interesting, isn't it? I need to investigate further. I wish I could find a definite William on a census to get his birthplace!

I did look at freebmd, but I had no luck. I am currently having trouble getting time to sit down and thoroughly investigate them, but that should change soon when my kids are away for a whole week.

Nina