Information on Samuel McCrossan and Catherine wilson.....

[tracey Pat]

Hi,

Not sure if anyone can help seem to have hit a bit of a brick wall I am trying to get information on Samuel McCrossan who married Catherine wilson in 1842 Paisley I have order the marriage cert hoping that this may give me some information on his parents, I have got all of there family births but not deaths only some, I have looked on the 1841 census but can not find him any help would be appreciated

Kind regards

Tracey

[AndrewP]

Hi Tracey,

Welcome to TalkingScot.

The online IGI shows their marriage (or at least the calling of the banns) to have been in Barony Parish (loosely speaking, outer Glasgow). The online IGI only shows two children - Elizabeth of 12-Jul-1858 and Janet of 06-Jan-1861, both in the High Church registration district of Glasgow. I guess there will be some pre-1855 children whose births or baptisms were not recorded in the OPRs, and hence do not appear on the IGI.

I hope that the 1842 marriage record gives you some new information, as most OPRs give very little information. The majority of the OPRs give something like John Brown and Margaret Green, both of this parish, gave their names for marriage on 18th July 1842. If you get one that gives more information about the parentage of the couple, then consider that as a bonus.

A search on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for the death certificates of Samuel and Catherine is probably your best way of finding their parents.

All the best,

AndrewP

[tracey Pat]

many thanks for the help,

This is my first visit to this site and I am not sure where I need to go - to get genreal help

Kind regards

Tracey

[DavidWW]

Hi Tracey

Well worth the credits on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk , as you'll find death register entries for both Catherine and Samuel, giving the names of the parents, - in the case of Catherine her son is the infomant, and in the case of Samuel the informant was the same son.

The technique is to search first for Catherine's death register entry, using both surnames, and wildcrads, - M*cros*n for the married surname. This then shows you if she was married or widowed at the time of her death.

That also gives you a start year or an end year for the death of Samuel, and it would be reasonable, to start off with, to assume that he was of like age.

Looks like you have soom good genes from this couple given their ages at death.

David

PS You'll easily find a death of a daughter of Samuel and Catherine named after his mother.......
dww

[tracey Pat]

Hi

Yes they had a total of 8 Children the First Being James 1846 but as they where married in 1842 I feel that there may be more that I have not managed to find - so I have gone from not knowing anything about mums sde of the family to having found out a lot.

I have samuels death as 1901 did you manage to find a death for his wife Catherine ?

Kind regards

Tracey

[Jack]

Hi Tracey,
This is only a possible for Samuel in 1841 because he's in Camlachie.
From FreeCEN - http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
FreeCEN Scotland status page - http://www.freewebs.com/mmjeffery/index.htm
(they seem to be advertising something at first - but it goes away)
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1841 census 622 Place: Barony-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 185 Page: 12
Address: Camlachie
MCCROSSAN Andrew M 25 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
MCCROSSAN Ritchie F 20 Lanarkshire
MCCROSSAN James M 1m Lanarkshire
MCCROSSAN Samuel M 20 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
MCCROSSAN Alexander M 15 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
CRICHTON James M 45 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
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The next are from census name indexes - full details should be on Scotlandspeople.
According to these, first son James was born about 1843.
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1851 census 622 (591) Ed 9 p 12 (Barony - Camlachie)
Samuel McCROSSAN, 31
Elizabeth McCROSSAN, 27 [looks like a forename error - either on transcription or original entry]
James McCROSSAN, 8
Agnes McCROSSAN, 5
Thomas McCROSSAN, 2
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1861 census 644-2 Ed 105 p 2 (High)
Samuel McCROSSAN, 41, b Glasgow, LKS
Catherine WILSON, 38, b Water of Leven, DNB
James McCROSSAN, 18, b Glasgow, LKS
Agnes McCROSSAN, 15, b Glasgow, LKS
Thomas McCROSSAN, 12, b Glasgow, LKS
Easter McCROSSAN, 7, b Glasgow, LKS
Jean? McCROSSAN, 5, b Glasgow, LKS [name index has James - but a Jean is born 1856]
Elizabeth McCROSSAN, 2, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet McCROSSAN, under 1, b Glasgow, LKS
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Jack

[DavidWW]

....snipped .........I have samuels death as 1901 did you manage to find a death for his wife Catherine ?

Kind regards

Tracey

Yes , see my previous post for how to use the cross-check search in the female index for a married female (always, of course, given that the informant had the information, and reported it correctly, - as was the case in this instance where her son Thomas was the informant).

David

[tracey Pat]

hi

many thanks to you all for this information it appears that jean maybe Jeannie How would I be able to find out if the 1841 is Samuel ? family

many thanks

Tracey

[tracey Pat]

hi david

Many thanks for the information I have just got Catherine death for 1896 not to sure that I can make out the mothers surname could it be Japper oh well thank you so much

Tracey

[DavidWW]

hi david

Many thanks for the information I have just got Catherine death for 1896 not to sure that I can make out the mothers surname could it be Japper oh well thank you so much

Tracey

It's JAPP.

David