FERGUSON missing brothers

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scopeo
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FERGUSON missing brothers

Post by scopeo » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:24 am

Could sks please explain where to begin when you are trying to trace two brothers and there are no clues to follow.

Hugh Ferguson born 1884 and George born 1887 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire

Too late for the IGI and both still there at 1901 census.
Checked ScotlandsPeople, marriage and death gave no result.
Have had good results earlier but stuck on this one.
Possible that they may have emigrated, but to where and when?
FERGUSON from Ayrshire:
DAILLY-McIlwrick/Watson/MacKernie/Gordon/Schaw/Alexander/Welsh/McCrindle/Ross
COYLTON-Wilson/Colville/Paul/Clarke/Steven
COLMONELL-McCulloch
KIRKMICHAEL-McLellan
KILMARNOCK-Howat/Clark
GLASGOW-Ferguson/Picken/McArthur/Munn

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Post by Pandabean » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:37 am

Have you found them in the 1891 census as well?

Instead of emigrating what if they served in the great war and were killed in action? If that is the case there would be no record of death on SP but you might find it on Scotlands People or the Commonwealth War Grave Commission Site.

http://www.cwgc.org/

National Archives Site with Medal Cards.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... ueryType=1



If they migrated then someone else may be able to provide a link to the site that gives records for emigration.
Andy
[size=75]
[b]McDonald[/b]
[b]Greenlees & Fairnie[/b] (Musselburgh area)
[b]Johnston, Whitson, Whitecross, Runciman [/b] (Haddingtonshire)
[b]Rutherford [/b](Dumbartonshire, Airth & Larbert)
[b]Ross, Stevenson & Robb[/b](Falkirk)[/size]

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Post by joette » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:37 am

Not without the realms of possibility that they married after 1930& died after 1950 or have you searched at NRH?
Researching:SCOTT,Taylor,Young,VEITCH LINLEY,MIDLOTHIAN
WADDELL,ROSS,TORRANCE,GOVAN/DALMUIR/Clackmanannshire
CARR/LEITCH-Scotland,Ireland(County Donegal)
LINLEY/VEITCH-SASK.Canada
ALSO BROWN,MCKIMMIE,MCDOWALL,FRASER.
Greer/Grier,Jenkins/Jankins

scopeo
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FERGUSON missing brothers

Post by scopeo » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:23 pm

G'Day Pandabean
Yes, they were both in 1891 census.
Checked the CWGC for both, proved negative.
Had a look at National Archives site, but without knowing regiment or service number not much chance of associating them with medal recipients.
Anyway, thanks for your advice.
FERGUSON from Ayrshire:
DAILLY-McIlwrick/Watson/MacKernie/Gordon/Schaw/Alexander/Welsh/McCrindle/Ross
COYLTON-Wilson/Colville/Paul/Clarke/Steven
COLMONELL-McCulloch
KIRKMICHAEL-McLellan
KILMARNOCK-Howat/Clark
GLASGOW-Ferguson/Picken/McArthur/Munn

scopeo
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FERGUSON missing brothers

Post by scopeo » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:26 pm

Joette
Please excuse my ignorance but what is NRH?
FERGUSON from Ayrshire:
DAILLY-McIlwrick/Watson/MacKernie/Gordon/Schaw/Alexander/Welsh/McCrindle/Ross
COYLTON-Wilson/Colville/Paul/Clarke/Steven
COLMONELL-McCulloch
KIRKMICHAEL-McLellan
KILMARNOCK-Howat/Clark
GLASGOW-Ferguson/Picken/McArthur/Munn

Pandabean
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Post by Pandabean » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:36 pm

Worth a try though. I know how difficult the medal cards can be to find a soldier. I have been trying to find my great grandfather who survived and served in the Argylls but there are so many others with the same name.

Anyways:
NRH = New Register House in Edinburgh

From there I believe that you can access post 1955 deaths and post 1935 marriages.

Quote from Lesley in another thread regarding certificates outwith SP's limit:
You would either need to find someone who could go to New Register House Edinburgh or Park Circus Glasgow on your behalf, or contact GROS directly:
http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/h ... flet2.html
Andy
[size=75]
[b]McDonald[/b]
[b]Greenlees & Fairnie[/b] (Musselburgh area)
[b]Johnston, Whitson, Whitecross, Runciman [/b] (Haddingtonshire)
[b]Rutherford [/b](Dumbartonshire, Airth & Larbert)
[b]Ross, Stevenson & Robb[/b](Falkirk)[/size]

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Post by SarahND » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:15 pm

Just for the record, I don't find any obvious candidates for these two gentlemen in the U.S. records.
Regards,
Sarah

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Post by LesleyB » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:25 pm

Hi Scopeo
Apologies if I'm stating the obvious here, but I was having a look on SP and there seem to be 17 Hugh Fergus*ons who died between 1901 - 1955 whose birth was 5 years either side of 1884, there are 12 for 2yrs either side of 1884 - do you know for certain it is none of them?

32 Georges died 1901-1955 born 5 years either side of 1887, 13 born 1 year either side of 1887.

Best wishes
Lesley

scopeo
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FERGUSON missing brothers

Post by scopeo » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:01 pm

Thanks again, Pandabean
For the NRH info. I know the difficulty with WWI info. I have the service number and medals given to my grandfather who was in the Highland Light Infantry. Someone went to the headquarters in Glasgow for me. During WWII they moved all the records for safekeeping and they were all lost due to bombing. If they had been left where they were they would have survived. "C'est la vie".
FERGUSON from Ayrshire:
DAILLY-McIlwrick/Watson/MacKernie/Gordon/Schaw/Alexander/Welsh/McCrindle/Ross
COYLTON-Wilson/Colville/Paul/Clarke/Steven
COLMONELL-McCulloch
KIRKMICHAEL-McLellan
KILMARNOCK-Howat/Clark
GLASGOW-Ferguson/Picken/McArthur/Munn

scopeo
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FERGUSON missing brothers

Post by scopeo » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:05 pm

SarahND
Much obliged for your efforts.
John
FERGUSON from Ayrshire:
DAILLY-McIlwrick/Watson/MacKernie/Gordon/Schaw/Alexander/Welsh/McCrindle/Ross
COYLTON-Wilson/Colville/Paul/Clarke/Steven
COLMONELL-McCulloch
KIRKMICHAEL-McLellan
KILMARNOCK-Howat/Clark
GLASGOW-Ferguson/Picken/McArthur/Munn