1861 census JAMIESON Paisley.....

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1861 census JAMIESON Paisley.....

Post by Bonnie » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:25 pm

I have a marriage for William Jamieson to Elizabeth Robertson 31/12/1852 High Church Paisley. Please could someone look up 1861 census to see if there were any children.
Many thanks Barbara.

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Post by AndrewP » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:02 am

Hi Bonnie,

A parent search on the IGI gives 11 children. Going by the dates, they are not all of the same William Jamieson and Elizabeth Robertson. The ones that seem a fairly safe bet should be the 6 born in Paisley.
  • MARY JAMIESON - Christening: 15 OCT 1854 High Church, Paisley, Renfrew
    JANE JAMIESON - Birth: 31 AUG 1856 High Church, Paisley, Renfrew
    WILLIAM JAMIESON - Birth: 31 AUG 1858 High Church, Paisley, Renfrew
    WILLIAM JAMIESON - Birth: 15 JUL 1861 High Church, Paisley, Renfrew
    ELIZABETH JAMIESON - Birth: 25 MAR 1863 High Church, Paisley, Renfrew
    HELEN WILSON JAMIESON - Birth: 09 SEP 1865 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew
Potentially some of the others could be of the same family, but are less likely.
  • THOMAS JAMIESON - Birth: 01 JUN 1857 Barony, Lanark
    MALCOM JAMEISON - Birth: 30 JAN 1860 Carluke, Lanark
    AGNES JAMIESON - Birth: 14 MAR 1865 Walls, Shetland
    NEIL JAMIESON - Birth: 21 JUN 1867 Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanark
    MAGNUS ROBERTSON JAMIESON - Birth: 25 SEP 1869 Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanark
By the dates, it is fairly safe to score out the Shetland one, but the two in Tradeston are well worth considering.

The 1871 census and the birth certificates on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk should be your next port of call. Another assumption is that William of 1858 died before July 1861, so a look at the death certificates may also be in order.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by Bonnie » Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:58 pm

Andrew, Thank you so much for the information on my Jamieson family, I will check that out.

Regards Barbara.

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Post by Jack » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:20 am

Hi Barbara,

The 1861 Paisley census has no name index, but if you get the street and number of where William 1858 (or poss his DC) & William 1861 were born i'll have a look at the address(es).

Jack

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Post by Bonnie » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:33 pm

Hello again Jack,

I have taken your advice and had a look at the birth certificates of both William Jamieson 1858 & 1861 the address is the same, it is either 4 Millmeadow Street, Paisley, or Wellmeadow Street it is a little difficult to read the writing.

It is the right Jamieson Family, as I now have a copy of James senior death certificate, died August 1889 widower of Elizabeth Robertson at Burgh Poorhouses Paisley, again I can not make out the beginning of the address.

Regards Barbara.

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1861 census

Post by Jack » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:15 pm

Hi Barbara,

Here it is - but no earlier additions to the children that Andrew found. You've got Elizabeth's far travelled dad though.
Looks like it was William who gave the details, as Elizabeth should've been daur, and the girls gr-daurs to Daniel as the household head.
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1861 cens 573 Ed 23 p 7 (High Parish)
4 Wellmeadow St.
Daniel ROBERTSON, head, widower, 80, woolen weaver, b Dingwall, Rosshire
William JAMIESON, son-in-law, marr, 32, harness weaver, b Paisley
Elizabeth JAMIESON, wife, marr, 38, --------- b Paisley
Mary JAMIESON, daur, 6, scholar, b Paisley
Jane JAMIESON, daur, 4, ------- b Paisley
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The Burgh Poorhouse was in Sneddon St (now New Sneddon St.) http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.htm

Have you contacted the Paisley Reference Library on the off-chance there is a Poor Law Record for William?
Sometimes there is, but please don't build up your hopes too much - no harm in asking though. Staff are very helpful, but always very busy.

http://www.renfrewshire.gov.uk/Web/Live ... enDocument
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Jack

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Post by Bonnie » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:14 pm

Hi Jack,

Thank you so much for the census details for William and family, and the added bonus of Daniel.

I will do as you suggest and mail the record office at Paisley to see if they do have any records, I did not think to do that.

Thank you for your much appreciated help Jack, I am very grateful.

Barbara.

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Post by Bonnie » Wed May 04, 2005 7:20 pm

Hi Jack,

I just wanted to thank you for suggesting I contact Paisley Record office.

I emailed them and today I have received in the post a fully detailed record of William Jamieson's time with them at the Poorhouse.

Many thanks for your help with this family I could not have done it without your help. Much appreciated.

Barbara.

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Re Poor Law record

Post by Jack » Wed May 04, 2005 8:25 pm

Hi Barbara,

Thanks for letting me know - so glad there was one. But probably not William's opinion!

Jack