Baillie search in the Highlands.....

Baillie 1799 · Post by **Baillie 1799** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:27 am

I am struggling to find that first bit of information to zero in on the BAILLIE family location in the Highland area.

When searching I have alot of strikes against me from the beginning unfortunately because at this point I have very little information to begin my search with. I know of two brothers that were born in 1799 and 1800. I know there mother's first name and married name only. I'm about 80% sure of father's name.

It only gets more difficult from there. I do not know of a church, but they were devoted Presbyterian here in the States and we are very sure they brought that with them from Scotland. I do not know of a church or county. The only region I know to search is "The Highlands", very broad area I know.

I don't know exact birth dates but without knowin mother's maiden name, I am very restricted on my searches

I can list here all information I have it would help or if you might know someone specializing in any of these areas that you might be able to forward the info to.

There were three Baillie brothers (parents unknown) from the Highlands;

William brn. Scotland ? died ?
John brn. Scotland ? died U.S. Ohio ?
George brn. Scotland 1771 died U.S. Ohio April 06, 1846

Willaim Baillie married Margaret (unknown maiden name) on a unknown date in an unknown location. They had two children (that I know of).

Margaret brn Scotland 1769 died U.S. Ohio June 27, 1846

Alexander brn Scotland 1799 died U.S. Ohio March 7, 1878
Daniel brn Scotland 1800 died U.S. Ohio April 20, 1868

Unfortunately this is all I know. John and his wife (possibly Nancy or Ann) went to US around 1804.

Margaret and her two young boys went to the US without her husband (reason unknown) around 1807 or 1808. Margaret's brother-in-law George also travelled with her to the US.

I would love to locate a church by marriage records or birth records. I just need that first bit of solid information to locate a city or church and I will be off and running. Many missing key components that makes this puzzle really difficult. If anyone can help me solve this one you will be able to hear me shouting and celebrating clear across the Atlantic . . . I promise.

Eternally grateful for any help,
Dave

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:54 pm

Hi Dave

I was puzzling over the best way to locate concentrations of Baillies (and other variations on the spelling)
Using IGI familysearch and simply putting in Baillie, Scotland brings up quite a few but so far I can see none in what we would now consider Highland. They are in Fife and Lanarkshire from the 1500's on with others in Inverness area over a long span of years but the main recorded concentration appears to be around Aberdeen.
Try http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp
This would at least give you an idea of whether a particular sequence of forenames appeared in the list.
I saw no Baillies/Baileys in Argyll/ Sutherland/Caithness areas so that takes out half of the Scottish land mass. See! Your search area has been halved already

Remeber the variations in spelling may mean that not all show up in a search.
Another problem is that there were Episcopalian congregations in the North East whose records may never have reached either the IGI or scotlandspeople.
Still quite a search but I think naming patterns may hold the best clue.

Russell

Post by **emanday** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:10 pm

Hi Dave,

Can I assume you got those dates for Alexander from IGI (submitted record), as I did...

Alexander Baillie
Birth: About 1799 Moy And Dalarossie, Inverness, Scotland
Death: 07 MAR 1878
Burial: Yellow Creek Presby,Cemetry, Yellow Creek Twp, Columbiana, Ohio

Spouse: Margaret Noble Family
Marriage: 02 APR 1824 , Columbiana, Ohio

Did a search using the C11105(#1-9) which is for Moy and Dalarossie, and there are absolutley no Baillies to be found. However, there are a fair few Barkley or Barkly entries. Maybe the same transcriber - same mistake? You'd have to see the original to find out.

Baillie 1799 · Post by **Baillie 1799** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:05 am

RUSSELL
I like your strategy about tackling by region. It might help if I get a map and start by county by county maybe.

Is there a place that I can look as you mentioned, Just researching a general name to see the quanity of those names in a specific county around the mid-1700's?

Thanks again for the tip,
Dave

Baillie 1799 · Post by **Baillie 1799** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:23 am

EMANDAY
I did see the Alexander Baillie in the IGI. I requested the roll of film from the LDS church and actually looked at that roll today, Moy and Dalarossie. No luck with any Baillie births in that area and I also remember seeing the Barkley that you mentioned also. I first mistook it for "Bailey", it was very difficlut to read on that page. But the parent's names and childs names all were completely different.

The Births/Baptisms I am looking for are Alexander Baillie 1799 and Daniel Baillie 1800.
Their parents were William and Margaret Baillie, marriage or birth for William and Margaret unknown.

This IGI is the only connection that I have found to Scotland with the Baillie name, where the names are correct; Father-William, Mother-Margaret and child Alexander. However, this IGI is also attached to Margaret Noble who Alexander married in Ohio in 1824. The Nobles are listed in the IGI and Alexander Baillie is only attached to Margaret Noble in this case because of marriage. So I have a feeling the Nobles were possibly from Moy and Dalarossie because I did see many Nobles today on the Moy and Dalarossie film today at the LDS Family Center.

I was really expecting more Baillie's than I saw. Just not very many in that area at that time. Any suggestions?

Thanks again,
Dave

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:46 am

Hi Dave

You said

I first mistook it for "Bailey",

Don't totally discount some of these names. Some of the transcriptions were away off beam. I have a Lapraik which was transcribed as Lwprick. As you can imagine it took a long time to track that birth down !
The URL below is for a LDS search method which uses the groups of Birth and Marriage records by date, event and county/parish.
The prefix C is births. M is for marriages. The search box only needs a surname to pick out all births or marriages in that time span, in that parish.
You will find variant spellings of the 'Baillie' surname but IGI search parameters are quite flexible and pick up the more common ones.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... otland.htm

Remember and note down which parishes you have already searched when you are forced to knock off for a meal or some shut-eye. Its very easy to lose the plot in protracted searches.
One way to get an overview of surname frequency is to use the ordinary IGI search, ask for all counties and it will generate a list of all occurences of the requested surname. Scrolling through the list gives a general impression of where clusters of births or marriages take place. Try to concentrate on the Extracted records (those all in capital letters) rather than the submissions as they are often multiple entries.
Its a cumbersome approach but can produce some surprising results. Demolishing brick walls is sometimes safer if done brick by brick.

Russell