Looking for James Fraser.....

ali2511 · Post by **ali2511** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Hi

This is probably a long shot but I'm trying to find my great great grandfather

I know he's called James Fraser from my great grandfathers marriage certificate from Glasgow in 1904 - they were called:

Joseph Fraser
Agnes Brodie

(but he's listed as deceased) his wife is listed as Rachel Fraser - ms -Steen - would love to find out more about her too!

But..I cant find any marriage cert between them or census records.

Are there any other routes to go down ?

Any help is really appreciated

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:13 pm

Hi Ali and welcome to TalkingScot. Hope somebody can give you a hand.

Can you tell us a wee bit more please. How old were Joseph and Agnes when they married. Occupations? What is James' occupation? Getting the age of Joseph and Agnes would give a (very) rough idea of James & Rachel's marriage date. Any clue if the family was always in Glasgow (as far as anyone knows

) or a chance they moved from elsewhere?

Anything else you can tell us might increase the chance of one of the kind souls here helping you to find something.

Just a thought when you're looking for a marriage - I remember a few Steen families in my village - they were actually Stevenson but the name had been shortened with use. As I say, just a thought.

Best wishes
Pinkshoes

ali2511 · Post by **ali2511** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:42 pm

Thanks for the welcome Pinkshoes

and sorry for being vague

So Joseph & Agnes were married in 1904 - Glasgow

Joseph Fraser - 23 - City Cleansing labourer
Agnes Brodie - 22 - Weaver

shows on their marriage cert that Joseph's mother & father were:

James Fraser - (deceased) Carter
Rachel Fraser (deceased) ms - Steen (looks like Steen anyway)

I'm not sure whether James and Rachel were originally from Glasgow - bit of a dead end there I'm afraid - it was a bonus finding Joseph & Agnes so to find anything on James and Rachel would be amazing

Many thanks for any kind help from anyone and you'll be at the top of my Christmas card list!!

Cathy · Post by **Cathy** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:23 pm

Hi Ali,
don't know if this will help. I haven't checked it out. Death:

1908 FRASER RACHEL STEVENSON F 50 AUCHTERDERRAN /FIFE 405/00 0084

ali2511 · Post by **ali2511** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:33 pm

Thanks v much Cathy

I've actually just found a record for them on familysearch.org

Its very basic though- just lists the birth of Joseph Fraser in 1880 - parents - James Fraser & Rachel Fraser Steen - he was born in Londonderry

Do you know if there are records to search for Northern Ireland?

I'm probably really pushing my luck now

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:39 pm

Hi again Ali

Now you've found the birth, check out the marriage on IGI of James Frazer and Rachael Steen 11 May 1863 Carrick, Londonderry

Have a look at the Ireland message board - might get a few ideas there.

Good luck

Pinkshoes

Post by **emanday** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:40 pm

Try ancestryireland.com, but be warned, their pricing system for viewing records is a bit strange compared to what we are used to on SP.

Cathy · Post by **Cathy** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:44 pm

Hi Ali,
you should be able to get a birth certificate for this date.
Ideally, you would have a Parish.
Someone will be along soon with better info, but in the meantime,
have a look at the "Search" logo above, and put in some key words.

ali2511 · Post by **ali2511** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:49 pm

WOW thanks Pinkshoes - you're a star - I would never have thought to change the spelling of the name!!

So am I am Fraser or a Frazer - thats the question!!

and Thank you so much Emanday too I'll check it out!

I'm V excited now

pinkshoes · Post by **pinkshoes** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:17 pm

Ali - nae problem - innit good when things come together

Another link to try :

http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirldy/

Best wishes
Pinkshoes