Joseph Richardson.....

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Lizzie
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Joseph Richardson.....

Post by Lizzie » Sat May 07, 2005 1:04 pm

He sailed from Glasgow to New York on the vessel Anchoria April 1876 and cannot be found on any US census after landing. He is stated on the shipping list as an Engineer.
He died around the time of WW2 when he left his money to his brother's children, my mother was one of the grown children. He never married and I do not know what State he settled in.
Where do I go now to find when he became Nationialised?

Lizzie

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Post by JustJean » Sat May 07, 2005 2:34 pm

Hi Lizzie

I've had a quick look for Joseph in the census records. The only possibility was in 1900 in Seats, Whitman County, Washington state. This Joseph states birthdate of Oct 1853, Scotland, is single, and a farm laborer. His naturalization status was listed as PA which I understand is the code for "Declaration of Intent Filed".....however he has also stated immigration year of 1871.

Are you certain this can't be your relative? My own relatives jumped all over the place with naming years of immigration and I don't think one of them was ever accurate.

All I have at the moment....but still looking....

Jean

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Post by marilyn morning » Sat May 07, 2005 2:37 pm

Hello Lizzie

For information on naturalization records in the United States, you could visit www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/

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Post by Lizzie » Sat May 07, 2005 4:49 pm

Thank you Jean,
Yes I have seen this one but it was the 'farm labourer' which threw me.
I also noted he was living with a 'partner'. I wonder if that term was what it means today? I also thought PA meant in the State.
I will check it out.

Lizzie

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Post by JustJean » Sat May 07, 2005 6:06 pm

Hi Lizzie

As far as I'm aware there are 3 possible designations for naturalization status.....AL meaning alien or unnaturalized, PA meaning intent to naturalize filed but not final, and NA which means naturalized. I have no idea however how long a period a person could remain PA without becoming NA.

It looked to me as this Joseph worked a farm in co-operation with another fellow. The other man is listed as head. Also on the same page are a lot of other relationships described as "partner" and they appeared to be also farm workers. If your Joseph moved about the country working in this manner then it's not surprising he doesn't pop up on other census indexes. Some are only indexed by head of household, the 1890 one is mostly missing due to fire, and I think one other year is only indexed by families with children under the age of 10. A lot of obstacles that would prevent him being found through an index.

Since you mentioned an inheritance he may have left a will. If this was handled professionally then it would have been probated and would likely be on file with the Judge of Probate in the County and State where he died.

Jean

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Post by Lizzie » Sat May 07, 2005 6:27 pm

Yes Jean there was at least one Lawyer involved, I remember it took an awful long time for them to eventually get the money. Alas everyone who knew the details are long time dead.
We are so lucky to have access to Scottish Will's here.

Lizzie

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Post by Andy » Mon May 09, 2005 8:30 am

Is there any possibility that he was a Ships Engineer and could have been at sea during the many censuses?

1880

Edward GILES Self M Male W 43 NY Boarding House Keeper IRE IRE
Katharine GILES Wife M Female W 34 NY Keeping House IRE IRE
William J. GILES Son S Male W 14 NY Attending School NY NY
Ann Elizabeth GILES Dau S Female W 11 NY NY NY
Columbus JEFFRIES Other S Male W 20 OH Sailor ENG OH
Jos. RICHARDSON Other S Male W 28 SCOT Sailor SCOT SCOT
Geo. DEAN Other S Male W 25 ST. JOHN N. B. Sailor N. B. N. B.
Chas. RAYMOND Other S Male W 26 NOVA SCOTIA Sailor N. S. N. S.
Henry WILSON Other S Male W 23 NORWAY Sailor NOR NOR
Richard WIEGANDT Other S Male W 36 HANSZIG Sailor PRU PRU
Chas. PETERSON Other S Male W 21 FINLAND Sailor FIN FIN
Chas. WOODMAN Other S Male W 25 HAMBURG Sailor HAM HAM


Census Place New York, New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254867
NA Film Number T9-0867
Page Number 467C
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Post by Lizzie » Tue May 10, 2005 1:19 pm

Just to let you all know I was up a gum tree with Joseph Richardson, I just found him in the 1881 census living with his 50 year old widowed mother and three other brothers in Glasgow, so could not have arrived, or on his way to the US until after this. However, he is still not to be found in any of the US census.
Back to the drawing board!

By the way I tried the 'view' option at the bottom of the census and was asked to buy more credits, I only have 3 left at the moment, so one must pay for this option right?

Lizzie

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Post by DavidWW » Tue May 10, 2005 2:34 pm

Lizzie wrote:.....snipped ..........By the way I tried the 'view' option at the bottom of the census and was asked to buy more credits, I only have 3 left at the moment, so one must pay for this option right?

Lizzie
Lizzie

Not quite clear what you mean......... To get to an 1881 census transcription you need to pay just 1 credit via the "View (1 credit)" button on the page of search results..........

Anything more than 1 credit means that you are looking at the 1871, 1891, or 1901 census where it costs 5 credits to view the digitised page from the enumeration book.......

Davie

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Post by Lizzie » Tue May 10, 2005 7:43 pm

Sorry about that Davie, I am inclined to ramble on.

The last piece had nothing to do with Joseph's whereabouts but with AnnH's comments about View Header Image. I tried it on the last image requested a couple of weeks ago. I went back into the image and clicked on the Header Image and was asked to buy more credits. I did this three times to make sure I had it right. So you would have to pay for this right?
It must be more than 3 credits as that is what I have left in there.

Lizzie