Goldencraig tollbar, Kilwinning.....

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Goldencraig tollbar, Kilwinning.....

Post by Sarah » Sun May 15, 2005 11:35 pm

Still looking for info on the above. An ancestor, James Speir/Spier died there some time after 1825. He had previously farmed at Yonderhouses. I have been told there is/was a Goldencraig farm just to the north east of Kilwinning.
Does anybody have info on the area or Scottish toll roads.
Many thanks

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Post by WilmaM » Mon May 16, 2005 9:52 am

I did find a Goldcraigs on an old map.

http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/547.html

select the top left sheet and click around the middle until you get Kilwinning.
Goldcraigs is to the North East, off a road that runs north on the East side of the river. On a modern road map, it's not the A737 or the B778 but a smaller unnumbered one inbetween.

Using that as a referrence, go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ type in Kilwinning under the place search. then click one to the right [ east] and twice north [up] then request the enlarged view. On that, Goldencraig is on the extreme Noryth East above the Railway and a great big N.

It is marked there as " Goldencraig T. P. " and below that is marked BM 112.9 . Any idea of what that means exactly ?

Andrew ! help

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Post by AndrewP » Mon May 16, 2005 11:13 am

TP = Turnpike according to the Ordnance Survey list of abbreviations.

All the best,

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Post by WilmaM » Mon May 16, 2005 11:53 am

Wilma

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Post by Sarah » Mon May 16, 2005 6:29 pm

I can't say thankyou enough!!. Tollbar/turn pike I really think we are almost there.
Did Toll booths have to keep records and where would I find them. Or should I ask, did any survive.
Again very many thanks to you all
Sarah

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Post by Sarah » Mon May 16, 2005 6:46 pm

Head NE from Goldencraig TP and you come to Goldencraig, Goldencraig quarry etc. Why the heck could I not find it when I looked months ago!!

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Post by WilmaM » Mon May 16, 2005 7:42 pm

Good - glad to be of help :)

I have just spoken to my father he was down that road last week and after we talked about it , I realised that I too have travelled that way often, as my husband has relatives in Kilwinning. Maybe I'll manage to sweet-talk one of them to find out the names of the houses still there ;)

I did find a rather interesting story of the place at :
http://www.maybole.org/community/kirkos ... ecords.htm

A case of a woman who murdered her newborn twins and buried them at Goldencraig farm, the owner then [1860 ] was a James Heggie aged 40.

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Post by Sarah » Mon May 16, 2005 11:23 pm

This is great. Now I just need to find info on him at Yonderhouses. It was actually his sister Margaret (married John Maitland) that I am descended from. I am after info on Janet Dickie and John Spiers who farmed at Biglees, W Kilbride and Yonderhouses, Ardrossen in the early 1800's Both farms were part of the Eglinton estate.
Many thanks
Sarah