Making the emigration link

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preiii
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Making the emigration link

Post by preiii » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:12 am

Hi all,

As an American just starting to research my Scottish family history, I'm finding that it seems almost impossible to definitively connect the person who came over on the boat with a date and place of birth in the home country. In my case, I have a couple of possible candidates for the Robert England who came to New Brunswick, Canada, around 1785 (one from Speymouth, Moray, born 1756, the other from Belhelvie, Aberdeen, born 1768), but I'm not sure it's possible to say for sure which is the "right" one. I can't imagine the difficulty involved if the surname was more common! A correspondent says that, in those days, passengers on the ships were essentially "human ballast" that came to North America full of people and left full of lumber -- and ship records obviously might be lacking.

Obviously, many of you having the advantage of being in Scotland :D don't have this problem. But I wonder if any of you folks have suggestions for attempting to bridge the "Atlantic gap" for good.

Paul

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Post by SarahND » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:24 am

Hi Paul,
I share your frustration :? I have only one line where the link to Scotland is definite, largely because it is later than the others (emigration in 1837) and my great aunt asked her grandmother lots of questions. The others go back to the 1700's and 1600's and are nearly impossible. I have been trying for years to prove that, for example, my 9th great grandfather who came to Connecticut in 1662 was the same as a person by the same name who was born in Devon in 1634... so far, although most people studying that surname in the U.S. have made the jump, I just can't see any real proof. And that is a less-common name.

As for my Stewarts-- ouch! :shock: One of them appears in Maryland in about 1764. No idea where he came from except a "family tradition" that he came from Edinburgh :roll: Same with my Gunns, Frasers and others... I keep hoping that if I dig deeply enough in the archives at the U.S. end, I will find something that will tie them to a particular area in Scotland. Sometimes, if you are very lucky, there will be a will in Scotland that will list beneficiaries in the States, or vice versa. There is still a lot of information out there that is not yet online. If you're able to go to county archives at the point of your ancestor's entry into the U.S., i.e. their first-known residence, there just might be something... I keep hoping, anyway! :D

Good luck, and be sure to post your success story when you get to the bottom of it!
Sarah

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Post by paddyscar » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:59 am

Hi Paul:

The following may be of some assistance in your search:

http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/%7Emarj/genealo ... oyage.html

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/index-e.html

http://www.immigrantships.net/

http://www.islandnet.com/~jveinot/cghl/ ... swick.html

http://www.theshipslist.com/

There are several references to Robert England in New Brunswick on the following site, but as I don't have a membership, I can't access the full records.
http://www.ancestry.com
Canadian Genealogy Index, 1600s-1900s

You may find this thread of interest/help as well
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Frances