Lundie daughters

car · Post by **car** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:36 pm

I would like to find out what happened to the daughters of James & Euphemia Lundie.

Briefly(?) - James Lundie and his wife Euphemia Baxter died within six months of one another in Dundee in 1882. They had a family of nine at the time ranging from 15 years old to 1 year old. I am interested, at the moment, in the four girls Mary Ann born 1872, Christina born 1874, Jane born 1876 and Euphemia 1878.

Euphemia died in 1888 at the Royal Orphans Institute, Dundee - sudden death according to the death certificate.

Maryann, Christina and Jane are on the 1991 census at the Orphanage. Maryann is a housemaid, Christina is a pupil teacher and Jane a scholar.

Christina is in Glasgow by the time of the 1901 census - tablemaid. Jane is still in Dundee - nurse housemaid.

I cannot find any trace (ie marriages and deaths) of Mary Ann after the 1891 census nor Christina and Jane after 1901.

I think I have tried everything. Did they all die after 1956? Where can I find out more about the Royal Orphans Institute? Does anyone know if there are records available where I might be able to find out when the girls went there? Hopefully some one will be able to point me in the right direction(s).

car

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:07 pm

Hi Car
...and welcome to Talking Scot

I don't know where the orhanage records are held, or if there any any records, but the following might be worth contacting as they may know or be able to advise:

Friends Of Dundee City Archives
http://www.fdca.org.uk/

Dundee City Archives
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/archives/official.htm

Archive Services at the University of Dundee
http://134.36.1.31/

Dundee Central Library, Local Studies
http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/loc_stud.htm

Do you know where in Dundee the orphanage was - does it give a district or address on the 1888 death entry?
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report ... d=43434#s9
says it dates from 1815:

There are numerous other schools in the town and neighbourhood, in which it is calculated that about 4000 children receive instruction. Among the many charitable institutions of the town are, the ancient Hospital, from the revenues of which £500 are annually distributed among poor citizens; the Royal Infirmary, established in 1798, and supported by subscription, which receives more than thirty in-patients, and affords medical attendance and medicines to the poor at their own dwellings; the Royal Lunatic Asylum, erected in 1812, and supported by subscription for the reception of 120 patients; the Royal Orphan Institution, established in 1815; ...

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **paddyscar** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:27 pm

Hi Car

I've had a quick look on ScotlandsPeople, without entering any locations or parents names.

Marriages between 1891 and 1931:

Mary Ann - 2
Christina - 2
Jane - 12

Deaths between 1891 and 1956, entering the appropriate ages but not birth years shows the following records:

Mary Ann - 4
Christina - 7
Jane - 27

I didn't find anything on the International Genealogical Index.

Hope this will be of help, and wecome to TalkingScot.

Frances

car · Post by **car** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:57 pm

Lesley and Frances thank you for the welcome and the advice.

Lesley I picked up on the Dundee Archives site last night and sent them an email. Maybe they will have something for me. I just wish I had thought to ask if they knew how I could find out where Euphemia was buried. Naturally enough I can't find the certificate at the moment, Jean Road seems to ring bells though. (The filing system is badly in need of an overhaul - mind you, if it is on the floor it can't fall off!)

Frances thanks for looking for me. I had been putting in year of birth too. I also did searches with their mother's maiden name but maybe they didn't know her maiden name. I don't know how much access they would have to relatives and their brothers who were living with their grandmother and aunt in Auchterhouse, Dundee. Maybe they never heard her maiden name. I checked out some of the hits but the rest will have to wait until the plastic recovers!

I have been "wandering" round TS for a while and really enjoy the way newcomers are made so welcome and helped regardless of how strong the brick wall might be, in fact it seems to me that the stronger the wall the more other members get involved.

Thanks again for the lovely welcome.

Car.

StewL · Post by **StewL** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:30 am

Car

Just recently I was given a lead to the DC of my gggrandmother. When I put in all the information Jack (you champion

) gave me it came up nowt. but when I cut back on the information and just put in Lanark, up she pops the only record

Sometimes less is more

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:52 am

Hi Car

Here's a bit of something you didn't request......

There is an RCE notation in the right margin of the DC for Euphemia. This will link to a subsequent register entry that sometimes gives further details regarding deaths that are sudden or unattended. These entries are not available online just yet but will be (hopefully!) very soon.

Because they are in a test phase through the www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk website and I'm one of the folks assisting with testing them I had a look to see if Euphemia's was recorded and linked properly.

I'll tell you the handwriting is dire....that same backward slanting script that the DC page is written in

but I think it says the cause of death was "probable heart disease".

Thanks for letting me use you as a test case!

Best wishes
Jean

nancy · Post by **nancy** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:28 am

Hi Car, and welcome to Talking Scot

My Aunt Maggie married in Paisley in 1919 to an Alfred Lundie, from Lochee in Dundee.
He was born there in 1895,and died Paisley 1947.
His father was a Patrick Lundie,Dundee.
Wonder if there's a connection

Cheers Nancy

djcrtoye · Post by **djcrtoye** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:43 am

Hi just reading your posts. I have Lundie on my family tree. They came over from Ireland in abt 1847-48 because my gggran Annie was born in Ireland and her brother Patrick was born here in 1848. The rest of the family were born in New Monkland from 1848 to 1867. I know it could be differnt families but your inquiry is the first on I've come across with that particular surname. Their parents name were Hugh and Catherine. Look forward to seeong if the the same family.

car · Post by **car** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:25 pm

Jean - thank you for going to the trouble of checking out the RCE on Euphemia's death certificate. With regard to that "dire writing" on the certificate, the same (left handed?) registrar recorded the deaths of her mother and father in 1882. I guess he also recorded the RCE on her father's cert. too.

Stewie - thanks for the tip. I must remember in future that "sometimes less can be more". Congrats on finding your certificate by the way.

Nancy & djcrtoye - My Lundies go back to a Robert Lundie who was born in Cargill, Perthshire according to the census although I can't find a birth for him. His death certificate says that he was 71 when he died in December 1878 and his parents where James Lundie and ? McNab - can't find a marriage for them either. I haven't found any brothers and sisters for Robert but certainly I haven't come across the name Patrick in any research. What about the two of you though? Both with a Patrick - any connection?

Thanks for the welcome and the enquiries. It would have been grand to link up with other Lundie families as soon as I joined TS!

Car