RCEs on-line

[Russell]

Hi Carole

I hope you were able to extract additional information from the RCEs. Some are fairly limited.

Well done SP though.

They do try to come up with the goods as promptly as possible.

Russell

[meelymunch]

Hi Carole

I hope you were able to extract additional information from the RCEs. Some are fairly limited.

Russell

Yes Russell, my Mary Ann Gifford's RCE gave me her fathers name. I'd tentively assumed that her father was the man her mother married a couple of years later.
On Mary Ann's marriage and death cert the fathers name is blank but on her mother's entry it says Mary Ann Gifford , Domestic Servant , Subsequently married to John Findlay.
I had just thought that maybe this was the mothers way of saying she married the father at a later date.
The father on the RCE was named as Robert Grant.
So there you go - don't assume anything.

Cheers, Carole.

[meelymunch]

I have to say (in my defence) that one of the reasons that i assumed that John Findlay , the man her mother married was her father was that on the 1881 census she was written down as Mary Ann Findlay, daughter.
However, on her marriage cert she is Mary Ann Gifford.

Chees, Carole

[Russell]

Hi Carole

You don't have to be defensive about what would be a logical assumption normally. What you have learned is. - Don't make assumptions . Find that next snippet of information that confirms or refutes your assumption.
In Scotland women often used their maiden names even after marriage and, in the days before we had police forces, and all the formal legislative processes we have now, when a man would not admit to being the father of an illigitimate child, the mother could at least point the finger by adding his name to the child's when the birth was registered.
Where a marriage between named parents took place subsequently, the child was automatically legitimised. This differs from the English practice.
If the child wished to amend the certificate they could apply to have an entry made to show the legitimisation i.e. an entry in the Register of Corrected Entries (RCE)
It is an intriguing difference in legal interpretation here in Scotland which is at variance with many other countries.

Sorry for the lecture but I have learned so much since taking up this addiction

Russell

[sporran]

Hello all,


just to clarify the situation with RCEs on ScotlandsPeople (SP).

The RCEs that are linked (or not) on SP are the same as on the DIGROS system at New Register House (NRH). Therefore, any location with links to NRH's DIGROS system will not reveal anything that is not on SP. However, if the RCE reference is readable, a fiche of the RCE should be available at NRH. From personal experience, these are almost always found, albeit sometimes involving a small conference of staff and some head-scratching.

I am not sure if other sites with fiches also carry RCE fiches, so perhaps someone with experience of those could comment.


Regards,

John

[StewL]

Hello all

The other day when I looked at an RCE for my gggrandmother it said view next page (free) and when I did it was for a completely different person

Any ideas why this happened or was it just a glitch in the system.

[fmackay]

Hi there
I found that if there was more than one RCE on the page then you were able to view them all. I paid the two credits then the rest were "free".

[AndrewP]

The other day when I looked at an RCE for my gggrandmother it said view next page (free) and when I did it was for a completely different person

Any ideas why this happened or was it just a glitch in the system.

Hi Stew,

The RCEs have been linked to the page rather than the entry on a page. So for most years where there are three birth or death entries per page (or two marriage entries per page), the appearance of the RCE button tells you there is an RCE (or RCEs in the plural) linked to one or more entries on that page.

If more than one RCE is linked to a page, then these can be associated to one or more of the entries there. In a small minority there is more than one RCE pertinant to one entry on a page. Your 2 credits buys you access to all of the RCEs linked to that page. To remain economic with your credits, if you see the RCE button there, read the certificate page first and see that it is the entry that you are researching that has the RCE mark so that you are not spending your 2 credits to see the RCE for somebody else on that page.

All the best,

AndrewP

[nelmit]

Hello all,


just to clarify the situation with RCEs on ScotlandsPeople (SP).

The RCEs that are linked (or not) on SP are the same as on the DIGROS system at New Register House (NRH). Therefore, any location with links to NRH's DIGROS system will not reveal anything that is not on SP. However, if the RCE reference is readable, a fiche of the RCE should be available at NRH. From personal experience, these are almost always found, albeit sometimes involving a small conference of staff and some head-scratching.

I am not sure if other sites with fiches also carry RCE fiches, so perhaps someone with experience of those could comment.


Regards,

John

Hello John,

Park Circus have RCE's on fiche for the West of Scotland. I viewed my Gran's there but the info was exactly the same as on her death certificate.

Kind regards,
Annette M

[StewL]

Thanks Andrew for the information on RCE pages