More Cousins x cousins ?

[Alan SHARP]

Intermarried - RUSSELL'S - KIRKLAND'S - SHARP/E'S

Herewith is the info I was thinking about, and trying to recall, on the previous thread, when I mentioned my correspondence with KennethM and Eaglesham re:-

Wm RUSSELL, Woodhouse, Eagleshan, Renfrewshire; Christened June 1st 1834.

A RUSSELL family researcher has this to say:-

Hi Alan
................Ed.
Don't know if you have looked at the Kirkland's much but the Russell's and Sharp's seem to connect with them quite a lot. In fact I think Matthew Kirkland and Isabel Arbuckle may be my 4X Great grand parents on both Sharp and Russell sides. I have not confirmed that Matthew and Elizabeth Kirkland are siblings yet but all the dates and naming patterns fit so it seems possible.

I've attached a couple of sheets summarising where I'm up to with them.

What seems interesting is that Matthew Kirkland born 1798, son of the Matthew mentioned above, is probably the Rev Matthew Kirkland born Carmunnock and part of the Church "dissent" in the 1800's through his parish of New Cummock. I've attached a clip on him too. If Elizabeth and Matthew are siblings you can claim him too!

Hope the research and farming are going well. Where we live the Cornwall Park Trust is farming Simmentals.

........................Ed.

Regards
Sue

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Interesting to note that this researcher lives within one kilometre of where the SHARP'S first settled in New Zealand, and they look out at the surviving dry scoria stone walls that the settlers built. Similar to the ones in Renfrewshire and around the Kirk at Eaglesham.

Yet another example of our interwoven families. Much like a good Paisley !

Alan SHARP.

EDIT. The double link for those interested, being James RUSSELL & Janet KIRKLAND, Troch, Eaglesham 1819, John RUSSELL & Elizabeth BUCHANAN , Troch Eaglesham 1848, and the KIRKLAND link with Carnummock being John CAMPBELL & Elizabeth KIRKLAND 1793 and Agnes CAMPBELL & John SHARP Cathcart 1823. Hence the KIRKLAND link from both directions with the union of Wm RUSSELL, Eaglesham, and Agnes SHARP, Row, marrying Auckland New Zealand 1870. Further complicated when Agnes's sister Helen SHARP from the John SHARP line married into the Wm SHARP line at Auckland NZ 1860.

[kennethm]

Hello Alan,

Sorry if this is slightly off this thread but was your John Sharpe from Aitkenhead in the Parish of Cathcart? There's an entry in the Farm Horse Tax Roll 1797-98 of John Sharpe, Aitkenhead paying 2 shillings duty for one horse.

Best wishes,

Ken

[Alan SHARP]

Hi yet again Kenneth.

Not off subject at all. The short answer is I/we, at this time are uncertain of the relationship. We are short of vital OPR's or other "official" documentation to sort out the exact relationship of the inter-related SHARP/E's of that period. In some of the OPR's there is a distinct line between two SHARP families in the Cathcart district, one being spelt with an 'E' the other without. A great help when both families had Christian names in common. Then later around the 1830's the hand writing changed and identifiable people had their name spelled either way. When they arrived in NZ they were signing documents with an X so I suppose spelling was not an issue for them.

The very reason for joining the TankingScot forms, and searching for other records, like the Horse Tax (which I have never seen mentioned before), was to be able to link named people, to named locations, in a given time frame. Also to make contact with any others trying to sort it all out. Unfortunately in a time period of great upheaval, worship wise, and cost wise, with registering births, and also before recording details about grand parents.

After WWII some research was done in Scotland on what I call my, Maternal John SHARP line, by one John JACKSON of near by Hamilton. A lawyer I believe. While the table forwarded to NZ went back away’s into their shared CAMPBELL - KIRKLAND - REID connections in the early 1870's, no birth OPR was given for John who we believe was born in 1802.

Extremely interesting info. Thanks and keep it rolling.

Alan SHARP.

EDIT 4/8/10. : The Horse Tax info link supplied by Kenneth:-

Also here's a link to Scotland's Places web-site where you can see the Horse Tax rolls 1797-98 on line. The Farm Horse Tax rolls list the names of the owner and number of horses and mules used in husbandry or trade in 1797-1798.

http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digit ... p?dv_id=62