Old Newspapers

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Janey
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Old Newspapers

Post by Janey » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:17 am

Hello everyone
I'm new to this site, and have just started to research my family tree, great fun by the way...

I have found the death certificate for my great grandfather who died on christmas eve 1931, in the district of Coatbridge, Lanark.
He died of a fractured scull due to an "accident", I was hoping to find a coroners report, or a newspaper clipping, but have no idea where to look.

Can anyone give me any advice, or point me in the right direction.

Janey

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Re: Old Newspapers

Post by nelmit » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:30 am

Janey wrote:Hello everyone
I'm new to this site, and have just started to research my family tree, great fun by the way...

I have found the death certificate for my great grandfather who died on christmas eve 1931, in the district of Coatbridge, Lanark.
He died of a fractured scull due to an "accident", I was hoping to find a coroners report, or a newspaper clipping, but have no idea where to look.

Can anyone give me any advice, or point me in the right direction.

Janey
Hello and welcome Janey,

Glad you're enjoying your new hobby.

Does your G Grandfather's death entry have a Register of Corrected Entries number and date at the left hand side of the entry?

Annette M

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Re: Old Newspapers

Post by AndrewP » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:32 am

Janey wrote:Hello everyone
I'm new to this site, and have just started to research my family tree, great fun by the way...
Hi Janey,

Welcome to TalkingScot. Yes researching your family tree can be great fun, and can be obsessive. :shock:
Janey wrote:He died of a fractured scull due to an "accident", I was hoping to find a coroners report, or a newspaper clipping, but have no idea where to look. Can anyone give me any advice, or point me in the right direction.
You should log on to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and download his death certificate (for a fee). On that death certificate, there may be a stamp mark in the left margin, RCE, or Register of Corrected Entries, with a volume and page number. This is often the case for a sudden death. If so, you may want to order a copy of the certificate to be sent to you (for a cost), as a copy of the RCE (or a typed transcript of it) is usually provided with it. Or if you can get to New Register House in Edinburgh, you can see it there and decide whether or not to purchase a copy of the RCE. The RCEs are not available online yet.

The RCE can add more information to how the death came about, or sometimes it can merely confirm what is on the certificate. You won't know until you can see it.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

Janey
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Post by Janey » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:59 am

Hi Annette M

Thankyou for your reply, yes there is a correction entry, it is difficult to read but it appears to be," Corr. Entry Vol XIV p(?)86 January 6th 1932".
Does this make sound right to you?

Janey
Looking for Parkinson's, Young's, Cunningham's, Lorimar's, Hamiltons, from Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen, Coatbridge.

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Post by Janey » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:03 am

Hi Andrew

Many Thanks for your reply, I have downloaded the certificate already, and I am hoping to get to Edinburgh in the Spring so a good time to look up the RCE then, can't wait to get my hands on all that information, loads to look up.

Janey
Looking for Parkinson's, Young's, Cunningham's, Lorimar's, Hamiltons, from Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen, Coatbridge.

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:45 am

Janey wrote:Hi Andrew

Many Thanks for your reply, I have downloaded the certificate already, and I am hoping to get to Edinburgh in the Spring so a good time to look up the RCE then, can't wait to get my hands on all that information, loads to look up.

Janey
Janey

There may be relatively little extra information on the entry in the Register of Corrected Entries but it will indicate if there was a formal investigation, and an FAI - Fatal Accident Inquiry. If there was, then there's a chance that these Sheriff Court records survive next door to NRH at National Archives of Scotland but be aware that some of NAS' material is "outhoused" and it can take a day or two for it to be brought into General Register House.

The National Library of Scotland is 10 to 15 minutes walk away and it's there that you may find a newspaper report of the death itself, plus possibly the FAI.

For access to both NAS and NLS you need to have photographic proof of identity to be granted a reader's card.

David

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Post by Janey » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:20 pm

Hi David

Thank you for the info, this is the kind of thing I need to know. I am getting better at tracking birth, death and census records down on the Scottish People Site, (downloaded a few wrong one's though, :oops:). When it comes to visiting research centres, I have not got a clue, but I can't tell you how much I am looking forward to trying. :D

Hopfully patient staff at these places.

Many Thanks agian
Janey
Looking for Parkinson's, Young's, Cunningham's, Lorimar's, Hamiltons, from Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen, Coatbridge.

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Post by tishgibbons » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:31 pm

Janey,

I see from your address that 'popping round to the NAS' is not exactly an option. I'm in the same boat. I have had some luck though with old newspapers. "The Scotsman" has a digital archive going back to the 1700s. You can buy a 24 hour subscription for £8.95 (wet Sundays are great for this!).

I had struggled to find out about an ancestor who died at sea in 1890 - someone on this site (thanks again John) got me the name of the ship and on "The SCotsman" I found an article about the sinking of the ship and the names of all who died. Even better I also found an article about my ancestor whose father sued the shipping company afterwards, and won!

Another relative seemed to have a mysterious death but I could not find any details on The Scotsman. The Aberdeen Library has a local history section and they looked up "The Aberdeen Press & Journal" for me and lo and behold! there he was, suicidal by all accounts, but a great character apparently.

Hope that helps!

Tish

ps - both of those unfortunates died on the same day - 11th February 1890 - gave me the shivers!
Researching Mitchell Grassick Bowman Farquharson Wilson Allanach Leys Coutts Gauld McNerney from Crathie and Braemar, Strathdon and Glenbuchat and who moved on to Aberdeen, Glasgow, Ireland, Australia, India, Canada.