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thomsos
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Post by thomsos » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:09 am

Can someone tell me, after I find my ancestors, how can I find their children's spouses :?: -
i.e. if I do a search on IGI I can find an ancestor, I can then find their spouse, then I can find their children, but how do I go about finding the children's spouses. and know that I have the correct ones.
does this make any sense :?:
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Russell
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Post by Russell » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:43 am

Hi Thomsos

This is where good sleuthing and inspired guesswork comes in.

If you find the siblings in one family and use the naming patterns (let's hope your rellies did too!) then gathering all marriages to that name and comparing their spouses naming pattern you can build a picture of that family. If they stayed in the one place it can be done. When it becomes nigh on impossible is if they moved away and you have no way to link them to their original area. Its Eureka time when you stand in a graveyard and find a stone with the very names you are searching for to confirm your hunch.
If you have an IGI Batch number for one birth it is easy, if tedious, to click on the number and trawl through all births in that parish over that time span. Alternatively type in parents names and leave all other boxes empty.
Naming patterns can sometimes obscure a line especially if the pool of names in that parish is small. We had three lines where all children were similarly named because the -in-laws had the same given fore names. One family moved to an adjoining parish which helped. Another had the first five children all named the same but number six was a girl instead of a boy and we found burial records for them.
Pre 1855 the OPR on scotlandspeople can generate a list of children for a couple where you already have their names, a broad span of their childbearing years and a knowledge of the parish(es) they lived in. You can catch Births in up to 5 parishes this way. Our record is , I think, 12 children born in 4 parishes.
Cost - 1 Credit!!

It can be done but takes time and patience.

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

thomsos
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Post by thomsos » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:58 pm

Hi Russell,
Thanks for your reply, but can I pick your brain again?
I have a family name of Jamieson/mcquaker ,married Dailly 1838, I have them with 8 children, one of them Susan married John Wason, Riccarton 1861, which I know is correct, the Batch no on IGI is M116111 dates 1855-1875 source 6035516, when I enter this batch no, it brings up 13 names, some of them are the names I have, and some not, most of them the dates could fit, but none of them give their parents names, so were there are two with the same name, what would be the best way to check this out! and how confident could I be with the others?
thomsos

Russell
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Post by Russell » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:28 pm

Hi Thomsos

Since you have their names it is quite straightforward on the ordinary IGI search.

Fill in the parents names in the boxes on the right hand side.
Set the search parameters to 'all countries' instead of Scotland as you would usually do.
Leave EVENT as 'All'
No date, No year range.
Then 'search'
Scroll down the results page past the various census returns to the IGI returns - British Isles.
You should have 5 results to these parents.

If you don't find them get back to me and I'll post them but its more fun to find another way to dig out results by yourself :D

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

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Post by Tracey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:49 pm

When i started on my Moggachs i just put the sir name on SP and there were only 57 on 3 pages from 1553-1854 ! some of them not on the IGI and vice versa - well worth the 3 credits ! That was one of the easier ones though.........
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by thomsos » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:28 pm

Sorry Russell, maybe I'm not reading it correctly, when I key in William Jamieson and Jane Mcquaker it only manages to bring up Susan Jamieson on the British IGI, however when I key in Hugh Jamieson and spouse Eliz. Jury, I get there family, but I have no proof that I have the correct Hugh, son of William and Jane.

and Thanks Tracey, will check your suggestion out.

thomsos

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Post by Tracey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:37 pm

Thomsos

You can put William Jamieson and Jane Mcquaker as parents names to Hugh Jamieson on SP and 1 comes up. Just parent names brings back 4 results although i cant view to see if its the right time frame as i didnt put in a year restriction
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by Tracey » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:46 pm

1841 census transcript

Hugh Jamieson abt 1839 Ayrshire, Scotland Dailly Ayrshire 585
Jean Jamieson abt 1821 Ayrshire, Scotland Dailly Ayrshire 585
Susan Jamieson abt 1841 Ayrshire, Scotland Dailly Ayrshire 585
William Jamieson abt 1821 Ayrshire, Scotland Dailly Ayrshire 585

Have you viewed this census ?

I looked under Susan - less returns !

Name: Susan Jamieson
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Dailly
County: Ayrshire
Address: Barzaney Cot
Parish Number: 585
ED: 5
Page: 2

Could this be your family ?
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

thomsos
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Post by thomsos » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:48 pm

Tracey,
I know that William and Jane have a son Hugh b1839, what I am trying to find out is how to search the IGI for all their childrens spouses.
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Post by thomsos » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:49 pm

Yes Tracey that them
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