Abbey District, Paisley Cemetaries

[eiggam]

Hi there - descendents died in Abbey District of Paisley between 1800 - 1854. Have copies of death notices but they do not mention where buried. Where would I find this information and are there any online sites that could help? All information received much appreciated.
Thank you.

[winslowsmom]

Hello,
Hope you don't have a cholera victim, they seem to be in unmarked graves. I have some Jeffreys in Abbey Paisley.

I haven't used this HappyHagis site, but they seem to have some info and volunteers:

http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/renfrew-pa ... yclose.htm

http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/renfrew-pa ... relief.htm

http://www.geocities.com/mjjodoin/ram218.htm#cem

http://www.paisleyonline.co.uk/html/cas ... hurch.html

Maybe some help?
Cathy

[Russell]

Hi Eiggam

Can you post whereabouts in Abbey they were as that will have an effect on where they were buried. Abbey covered a wide area around the town of Paisley and took in places like Neilston and Johnstone. They were small towns/villages and are on completely opposite sides of the town and had their own burialgrounds (depending on when !!)
Post names and dates for me and I'll have a look in the local (Renfrewshire) MI books.
If they were Ferguslie, which is now totally part of Paisley, they would have been buried in Woodside Cemetery in Paisley itself. It is a private cemetery with terrific records and very helpful staff. They were even able to produce the original entry for someone who had died in the Poorhouse and was in an unmarked grave.
If you can supply them with names and dates which don't require searches they don't charge anything. They do not have Memorial Inscriptions. This is not required by their system. If you think a gravestone is a possibility I could look for you once you have the lair number(s).

Russell

[eiggam]

Hi Russell - thanks your reply.
Family name is Leckie.

7th August 1854 - Mother age 53 - Mrs Catherine Campbell Leckie - 104 New Ground - Residence Lonend
10th November 1854 - Father age (illegible 54?) - Archiebald Leckie (Dyer) - 104 New Ground - Residence Storie Street
October 1840 - Son age 3yrs 4mths - Robert Leckie - Residence Blackhall, Lonend
4th March 1847 - Son age 1yr 11mths - Alfred Leckie - Residence Lonend ........, Abbey Parish
March 1852 - Daughter Robina Leckie age 11yrs 3mths - Residence Lonend

This family had a Dyeworks business in Lonend at this time.

I am also looking for an Archiebald Leckie who died in 1846 and I was told is buried in Abbey Parish. He would have been 82 at that time and would be the grandfather. This info was given to me but I have searched Scotlands People etc and cannot even find a death certificate for this man to verify this info. The grandmother is supposedly Elizabeth Leckie and again I cannot find anything on this woman.

Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks.
Eiggam

[eiggam]

Hllo Cathy - thanks for your info and sites. Will check them out as well.
No cholera victims and more info about them which you will see I have posted to russell.
Appreciate your infos.
Eiggam

[LesleyB]

Hi Eiggam

I am also looking for an Archiebald Leckie who died in 1846 and I was told is buried in Abbey Parish. He would have been 82 at that time and would be the grandfather. This info was given to me but I have searched Scotlands People etc and cannot even find a death certificate for this man to verify this info.

As Archibald died in 1846, before Statutory Registration was introduced in 1855, there will be no death certificate on SP. The best you can hope to find is an entry in a parish register either of his death or burial with any luck, or perhaps a mention in the cemetery of either the burial plot or a mention on a stone, if there is one.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Russell]

Hi Eiggam

Your Leckie relatives appeared to move in high circles, at least in the 1700's.

There are three 'Leckie' entries for all of the graveyards (total of 12) in and around Paisley.
The earliest may not be your family line but is a stone within Paisley Abbey itself. You had to have good connections to be buried inside the actual Abbey.
M.I. "In memory of Jas Maxwell, esq of Merksworth, August 1757 age 73. his widow Janet (father John Leckie esq of Croy Leckie) Dec 1775 age 87........" There is more but it relates to the Maxwell family.
Outside, in Paisley Abbey Churchyard is(probably was as they were recorded many years ago) other early stones.

"Alexander Leckie, wife Mary Cochran and children 1781" No other details I'm afraid.

"Archibald Leckie dyer, Lonend, wife Catherine Campbell, son Robert 4th Nov 1840 age 3 y 6 m.

I would doubt that the stones outside the Abbey have survived both the elements and the ravages of a thriving township encroaching on the hallowed Abbey grounds but wha kens

So we have found at least some of your family but there is insufficient detail datewise to confirm or refute some of the data you already have.
I wonder where the other children were buried.
Hope this helps though

Russell

[eiggam]

Hello Russell - many thanks for your information -very much appreciated. I know that Archiebald had a Dyeworks factory in Lonend until about 1853 - employing quite a few people. I have census lists recording him and his family and the deaths of himself, his wife and the children. Strange that the other 2 kids are not listed as being buried in the Paisley area. The Leckie's I believe came from Dumbarton - and there are plenty of them - so I have had trouble finding out which side of the Leckie's from Dumbarton Archiebald came from. In any case your information about the burials has helped a lot, and again many thanks.

I see also you are researching McGilvray (and the various spellings of same). One of the above Archibald's kids - also called Archiebald married a Mary McGilvray (she was Scottish as her family all lived in Scotland) in England in 1852. They returned to Scotland and had 4 children - of which I have all details - but Archiebald left them and went to the USA in the 1860's. In any case Mary McGilvray remarried a Joseph Miller in 1871 in Glasgow. Have them on the 1871 census. Found Joseph Miller's death certificate in 1897 - no mention of Mary to be found on it. I have searched and searched for the demise of Mary but she seems to have disappeared into thin air!! Using different spellings of McGilvray I still have come up with nothing. Would you have anything on this in your McGilvray searches ? Her parents were Alexander (Baker) and Isabella and sister Ellen and brother Robert - as far as I know.

Thanks you help once again.
Eiggam

[Russell]

Hi Eiggam

Glad I could help a little

I'm interested in your McGilvray line although I can't find a link to mine. My line come from the isle of Colonsay where the name was spelled McGilvra (There is no 'y' in Gaelic). They settled in Oban and my (at least, my wife's!) Archibald McGilvray was married for 40 years then married another 3 times His fourth wife Christina McLean had previously been married to an Archibald McGilivray which caused us great confusion when searching. Census returns were the only way to identify the existence of two family lines as she brought her sons from her previous marriage and their ages were not a match for any records we had found. The McGilvray name was, of course, spelled in the [anglicised] Colonsay way since Archibald gave the information. (Christina's first husband was from Bunessan on Mull)
The way the name was commonly spelled can be an indicator of which part of the country they came from so take note of which spelling comes up most frequently.
There is an American runs a McGillivarary family web site with all the variants he has found but I have lost the URL in a computer crash so you would have to Google for it. Sorry
Good luck with this particular

Russell

P.S. Her parents and siblings names are distinctly lowland ones so that might help rule out some entries.

[Agnes]

Hello Russell

if you died in Elderslie in 1870 where would you be buried? looking for Bridget McReddin age 55

thank you

Agnes