OPRs in Shotts

[Anne H]

Great Jean

I love it when everything falls into place...such satisfaction. Glad the discs came in handy.

Regards,
Anne

[Jean Jeanie]

James Sneddon (various spellings) and Rachel Burt have been bugging me for years. When I first found Rachel Burt in a census and her marriage to James Sneddon, which led me to find Jean's Aminta and her siblings I knew I was on the wrong route.

Little did I realise that there were 2 Rachel Burts who married 2 James Sneddons

I now have two generations further back.

Thanks so much Anne

Best wishes
Jean

[Anne H]

My pleasure, Jean...glad to have been able to help.

Regards,
Anne

[Jean Jeanie]

How is this for a stroke of luck?

A connection on the GR site, Peter, is also “doing” Sneddons. We have been working together trying to find a connection.

Then along came Pam, who is “doing” Sneddons too!

Peter had a d.c. for a James Sneddon who died in Muiravonside Stirling in 1862, parents shown as David Sneddon and Ann Simpson and he couldn’t tie him into his family tree. The informant was a grandson, Henry Sneddon.

If you look back at Ann’s list of children for James Sneddon and Rachel Burt you will see a daughter Ann, born in 1809 in Shotts.

We found out that this Ann married a Richard Sneddon (no relation as far as we know) and had a son Henry! I found Ann’s d.c. and parents are shown as James Sneddon and Rachel Burt.

Soooooooooo, the James Sneddon who married Rachel Burt is Henry’s grandfather and so James who died in Muiravonside in 1862 is the father of my George Sneddon born 1820 in Rutherglen. (The brother of Ann born 1809)

As my George Sneddon and his descendents all lived in Old Monkland, Lanark I never thought of looking for his father, James’s death outside of Lanark. I always assumed he had died before 1855.

So now we know that James died in 1862, so he must be around in 1851 and 1861. He surely is. He’s in Muiravonside Stirling in both! In 1851 he has another wife! So after poor old Rachel Burt popped her clogs he married a Jane …………wait for it………Sneddon!!!! In 1861 he is on his own, a widower.

In 1841 James was in Old Monkland with his 2 youngest children and a Jane Sneddon, but I didn’t make the connection that she was a second wife, due to the lack of relationships in the 1841 census. Found their marriage in 1834.

Then Pam found Jane Sneddon’s death in 1857, informant, son in law, John Allan, who is the husband of James’s youngest daughter, Elizabeth.

Anyway the bottom line is that the John Sneddon mentioned at the very start of this saga is the very much younger brother of my James Sneddon and explains why John’s son in law showed the incorrect mother, Rachel Burt, on John’s d.c.

We deduce that after Ann Simpson died, James Sneddon and Rachel Burt looked after James’s younger siblings.

Complicated or what?

But what a great week we have had piecing this lot together.

So Peter and I are 5th cousins once removed!

Hope no one had nodded off reading this saga.

Best wishes
Jean

[WilmaM]

I've been trying to follow this one as my Sneddons caused me a bit of a headache initially.

I don't know if this will help or hinder:

I have a John Sneddon b~ 1847 to John Sneddon and Elizabeth Simpson [m 1834 in Polmont]

'my' John married Grace Bennie [ms Bennie] in 1879 at Polmont and died in 1913.
Grace was a widow and her 1st family are on our tree - but we are acquainted with the descendants of her 2nd family.

Is he perhaps another 'twig' in this long running tale?

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi Wilma

I've been tripping over your John and Elizabeth Simpson for years

Can't tie them in with my lot as yet.

There is still time

Best wishes
Jean

[Anne H]

Hi Jean,

How exciting finding two new contacts to work with and actually get good results...fabulous! If you need me to check for any other kids on the discs, let me know!

Then Pam found Jane Sneddon’s death in 1857, informant, son in law, John Allan, who is the husband of James’s youngest daughter, Elizabeth.

Do you know who John Allan's parents were? I have Allan's from Polmont, some who in later years ended up in Muiravonside.

Regards,
Anne H

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi Anne

John Allan was born in Tollcross Glasgow, according to the 1881 census. I don't know who his parents were. Other censuses state Glasgow only.

Elizabeth Sneddon and John were married in 1846 in Muiravonside. 2 kids born in Polmont in 1847 and 1850 (Motchell, according to Ancestry, which I assume is Rachel, after Elizabeth's mother and William) They then went to Old Monkland in 1851, New Monkland in 1871 and 1881.

That's about all I know for them.

Best wishes
Jean

[Anne H]

Thanks Jean! I think probably different Allan's but I'll keep yours in mind, just in case.

Regards,
Anne