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Russell
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Location: Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire

Post by Russell » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:31 pm

Hi Helen

I understand you completely when you try to sort out who was related to whom. In Kilbarchan that meant everybody.
The village is/was quite small and almost everyone was involved or connected with weaving, whether it was the bleaching of cotton for dying and spinning or beaming warps (forget Scottie and Startrek :D ) or transporting finished bolts to the buyers in Paisley, it all contributed to the village industry.
They were very jealous of their profitable trade and went to great lengths to prevent outsiders from coming into the village, so many marriages were between one family and their neighbours offspring. Since they all had large families there were lots of families of the same name who, of course, followed the traditional naming patterns so every male had a wheen of children all called exactly the same initially as his brothers children. Only the later ones give a clue as to their parentage - Sometimes the grandparents had been named using the relatively small pool of fore-names so that is no help in tracing families either.
After the 1840's second, and later sons, can often be found marrying outside the village as the weaving industry became more mechanised and centred on Paisley or the Calton in Glasgow which is why you find records from the Middle or Low Church in Paisley in the 1860's and Glasgow in the 1880's.
Weaving history is fascinating and to live within the results of it just enhances the feeling (I'm an incomer to the village but have only stayed here for 40 years so ) Original village families are still proud of their heritage and fiercely protect the village.

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

helenbee
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Location: Milton Keynes

Post by helenbee » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:46 pm

Thank you Russell. It's really interesting and I do hope I can get up there to Kilbarchan some time over the next year. Do you think I stand any chance at all of sorting this lot out, or do I just have to accept that I'll never know which family was which.
If Robert Speirs was still living in Kilbarchan when he was a soldier (presumably the second half of the 19th century) is it likely that he was with a particular regiment, or could it have been any of them?
Speirs - Glasgow, Kilbarchan
McAuslan - Glasgow, Argyll
Fleming - Glasgow, Paisley
Henderson - Paisley
McQuarrie - Argyll
Wright - Govan, Tarbolton
Clark - Tarbolton
Lucas - Tarbolton

Russell
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Location: Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire

Post by Russell » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:58 pm

Hi Helen

It was only after I had posted that I realised that I had left the soldier question unanswered.
It was quite possible that he was both a soldier and a weaver.
Kilbarchan actually raised a militia for one of the campaigns. I was hunting for notes on it and can't find them ( a not unusual situation :( )
The weavers cottage (Scottish National Trust property now) used to display the full uniform of the militia so it must have been toward the end of the 1800's.
Some local militia were used to replace garrisons of regular soldiers who were sent off to war so the local yokels never were asked to fire a shot in anger and could come back to their trades after the emergency was over.

Hope this clarifies things.

Russell
P.S. If I do find my notes I'll get back to you.
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

helenbee
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Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:27 pm
Location: Milton Keynes

Post by helenbee » Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:31 pm

Russell - I've started a new thread for this as we're getting off topic on this one. See "Kilbarchan militia" under the military section of the forum please.
Speirs - Glasgow, Kilbarchan
McAuslan - Glasgow, Argyll
Fleming - Glasgow, Paisley
Henderson - Paisley
McQuarrie - Argyll
Wright - Govan, Tarbolton
Clark - Tarbolton
Lucas - Tarbolton