Miller/Muir Marriage

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:46 am

I am trying to stop spending on SP (without much success) so before I buy a marriage record I would like some suggestions for a minor quandry

The IGI and SP give a marriage 11 June 1820 for Robert Miller and Elizabeth Muir in Paisley. A Journal belonging to a family researcher & written many years ago, has the following entry
P161 JUNE --- 1820.
Married at Paisley, Tuesday, 13th June, Elizabeth Muir, daughter of the deceased James Muir, late farmer, in Netherton, to Robert Miller, wright, in Paisley

Could the record for 11 June be the banns & the marriage may have taken place the following Tuesday? Would both dates be in the register? Any other explanation for the discrepancy in the dates?

I know who are the parents of the couple, so I don't think I'd gain much information from the parish record - but I would be interested to resolve the dates and wonder if this would be part of the parish detail?

thanks

Trish

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:40 pm

Hi Trish
Without looking at it, it is difficult to tell.
My thoughts, based on discerpancies I've found with my own lot, would be that:

a. there may be a transcription error: either SP's or the writer of the journal you mention. Maybe the number is difficult to read. In one example I have of dates copied long ago from a family bible where June is given as the month of birth, the month was really "Jan" as stated in the OPR, so I'm not sure if it is the family bible entry which I've never seen and have no idea where it might be, or the handwriting of the person who copied the family bible entry which has caused the change in month.

b. there may be an error in actually recording the correct date. I've certainly come across OPR pages where one entry maybe follows on from several on the same page and SP/GROS and IGI have actually got the date wrong. When it's your ain folk, you tend to read the entry more carefully and pay more attention to the whole OPR page. I certainly have a few dates in my tree which do not agree with SP/GROS or IGI and these dates are based on what I've seen and believe to be the correct dates written in the OPR.

c. It may be a case of "A and B were contracted to marry on the 11th and were married on the 13th" or something similar, where both dates are mentioned.

d. it may be none of the above!

Best wishes
Lesley

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:49 pm

Hi trish

It appears in this case it's a proclamation with an indication of the sum paid. No great detail!!!

Best wishes
Jean

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:52 am

Jean and Lesley

Many thanks for the information - I did think it may be banns & I have a few images listing amounts paid - obviously very important (as it still seems to be

)

The Jan/Jun from Lesley also struck a chord as I found one of these yesterday while attempting to resolve other issues!

I have a family tree for the descendants of Elizabeth and Robert that was created by word of mouth of those descendants - wonderful document but not a date to be seen - the compiler perhaps realised they could not all be checked in his lifetime

thank you again - much appreciated

Trish