Help in reading certain words in 1792 Birth entry

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Help in reading certain words in 1792 Birth entry

Post by innjess » Thu May 22, 2008 6:18 am

Would anybody over there like to help me in Australia decipher the above?
Thanks
Innes

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Post by paddyscar » Thu May 22, 2008 6:37 am

Hello & Welcome to TalkingScot, Innes [scotland-flag]

We'd love to give it a try! Here are the directions to upload a copy of your document viewtopic.php?t=6496

All the best,
Frances
John Kelly (b 22 Sep 1897) eldest child of John Kelly & Christina Lipsett Kelly of Glasgow

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innjess upload

Post by innjess » Sun May 25, 2008 3:45 am

Dear Frances
The upload was accepted, and I hope you can read it.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1552

Do I just wait for a response now... I am finding the processes a bit bewildering! (Put it down to old age!). If you can't read t, can/do I send ahard copy to someone for further help?
Thanks for everything
Innes Hutchison

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Post by Anne H » Sun May 25, 2008 5:30 am

Hi Innes and warm welcome to TalkingScot from me too! [scotland-flag]

Here's what it looks like to me...
James Hutchison and Eliz Crawfurd ----------- had their 10th ? child born 17th Oct, baptized 9th Nov. named James.
Jas. _______ & _______ _____, wit.

I just checked the IGI and you will also find this birth extract along with some other submissions you might want to check out.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

Regards,
Anne H

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Post by innjess » Sun May 25, 2008 6:11 am

Dear Anne H,
Thanks for the reply ... I got as far as you did (not meant to sound disparaging!), but the link you supplied gave me one word more - after "Elizabeth Crawfurd" the link gives me the clue to the next word - it's "Shettleston". So, thanks for your help!
Innes

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Post by AndrewP » Sun May 25, 2008 9:07 am

Hi Innes,

Here is my attempt at filling in the blanks from above.
  • James Huctchison and Eliz Crawfurd Shettleston
    had their 10<sup>th</sup> Child born 17<sup>th</sup> Sep<sup>r</sup> and b<sup>d</sup> 9<sup>th</sup> Nov<sup>r</sup> named
    James. Ja<sup>s</sup> Scott & Ja<sup>s</sup> Barr wit.
I went back to SP and downloaded the OPR image. I cleaned it up and saved it as a TIF image. It can be seen at:

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1554

The names are clearer. Each time you have saved it as a JPG (and scanned and re-saved it?), the quality has degraded. JPG is an economic way of saving images, but the cost of that economy is in the quality.

My feeling is that the birth month should be September rather than October. If you look closely at the first letter then you see some of the parts which are in heavy ink (two passes of the pen) and those in light ink (one pass of the pen), then I think you can see an S in there. I see the third letter sas more likely to be a p than a t.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by Anne H » Sun May 25, 2008 4:02 pm

What a difference in the image, Andrew...very clear!

I too thought at first the birth month was Sept., but the more I enlarge the image, the month to me still looks like it is Octr....but who knows?

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Post by Andrew Cunningham » Sun May 25, 2008 5:12 pm

Looks like Oct'r to me as well. Otherwise the suggested transcription seems right.

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Post by innjess » Mon May 26, 2008 2:26 am

I can't tell all of you how gratifying it is to receive all this help!
I tend to agree that the birth date is probably/possibly (!) October, if for no other reason that in those days the christening/baptism tended to follow on quickly after the birth. Infant mortality was high, as we all know, and James, in this entry, is stated to be the 10th child! I now have to try and discover who the others were!
Thanks again... thanks a lot.
Innes Hutchison

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Post by paddyscar » Mon May 26, 2008 3:11 am

Hi Innes:

Wow!!!!!!

The IGI has 9 births and christenings of children of James Hutchison and Elizabeth Crawford/Crawfurd

Film Number: 457664
Father: James Hutchison Family
Mother: Elizabeth Crawford

Agnes Hutchison
Birth: 14 FEB 1791 Shettleston, Lanark, Scotland
Christening: 27 FEB 1791 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

James Hutchison
Birth: 17 OCT 1792 Shettleston, Lanark, Scotland
Christening: 09 NOV 1792 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

ELIZABETH HUTCHISON
Birth: 12 NOV 1772 Eastwood, Renfrew, Scotland
Christening: 25 SEP 1778 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland

ANNE HUTCHISON
Birth: 17 AUG 1774 Eastwood, Renfrew, Scotland
Christening: 17 JUL 1774 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland

ROBERT HUTCHISON
Birth: 15 MAR 1785 Eastwood, Renfrew, Scotland

Jean Hutchison
Birth: 08 DEC 1787 Sandyhills, Lanark, Scotland
Christening: 12 DEC 1787 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

JANET HUTCHISON
Birth: 24 JAN 1781 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Christening: 25 JAN 1781 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland

John HUTCHISON
Christening: 19 JUN 1772 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland

Mary Hutchison
Birth: 09 NOV 1776 Low Paisley (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Christening: 14 NOV 1776 Low Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland

Go to the IGI at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp

Enter only in the Father's boxes James Hutchison
Enter only in the Mother's boxes Elizabeth Crawfurd, then hit search.

Many of the items are taken from parish records, but many are also entered by an LDS member, so someone is/has been working on them :lol: =D>

Frances
John Kelly (b 22 Sep 1897) eldest child of John Kelly & Christina Lipsett Kelly of Glasgow