Help deciphering COMPLETED, thanks

[ChristineW]

Hi

I am struggling to make out what comes after Alexander Robertson Gardiner? something court? castle? and am hoping some fresh eyes can see what I can't. I have been struggling with this for weeks now and it is driving me round the bend! I am desperate to find when and where their daughter Elizabeth was born (around 1859-1860) as I can't seem to find her birth on SP or the IGI - so I am hoping Alexander's job and location will give me a clue.

Cheers, Christine

(It's the 4th entry from the top of the page)

http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/ac30 ... MC1853.jpg

[LesleyB]

Hi Christine
The image quality of the linked image is pretty poor - maybe something has happened to it in transit. I'm afraid I can't read it. Any chance you might upload a better quality image to photobucket?

Best wishes
Lesley

[marilyn morning]

Hi Christine,

Can you crop the page and just show the 4th line from the top?

Regards
Marilyn

[LesleyB]

I'd rather see the whole page if possible - it can help a great deal to understand the style of the hand from the other entries on the page.

[ChristineW]

Sorry Lesley - that's the certificate downloaded from SP just uploaded to Photobucket.

I've played about with cropping bits of the certificate and I think it is slightly clearer now. What a pain!

See what you make of it now.

Cheers, Christine

[WilmaM]

It looks to me :
Alexander Robertson gardiner Powerscourt Castle
and Jane ? Scott of this parish.

As far as I'm aware though Powerscourt Castle is in Ireland?
I wonder if there is a Dundee castle with a similar name?
or if indeed he did travel back to Scotland to marry,
in which case the daughter might well have been born in Wicklow.

[ChristineW]

Ah Wilma - I think you may just have cracked it! I am having horrendous problems trying to track them on censuses and I just cannot find them anywhere in Scotland on any census at all. And I can't find Alexander Robertson or Ann Scott's death certificates in Scotland either, so I wondered if they did leave the country after their marriage.

(Their daughter Elizabeth obviously returned to Scotland at some point as she married David White in June 1881 - however, she must have been hiding in the shed when the 1881 census man came calling).

I had googled Scottish castles, stately homes and even churches until I was blue in the face trying to match up anything beginning with the letter "P" with absolutely no luck (the nearest I got was Powrie Castle). But now things are beginning to make sense.......

I wish I had posted this query ages ago as it would have saved me even more grey hairs and an absolute fortune on SP for certificates of seemingly every blinking Robertson that ever walked this earth!

I will check and see if anybody in the family has any stories about the Great Greats going to, or coming from Ireland.

Thank you - you have given me hope of finally bashing this wall down!

Christine

[WilmaM]

I hope you do manage to make some sense of them Christine.
I did a quick search around Powerscourt to see if there was any Scottish connection that would take a Dundee gardener over - nothing obvious but

Wikipedia does say :

19th century gardens
Mervyn Wingfield, seventh Viscount Powerscourt, inherited the title and the Powerscourt estate, which comprised 200 km2 (49,000 acres) of land in Ireland, at the age of 8 in 1844. When he reached the age of 21, he embarked on an extensive renovation of the house and created new gardens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerscourt_Estate

So that would have been in the late 1850's so perhaps he poached the best gardeners from all over.

I found other interesting bits on Powerscourt's own website: http://www.powerscourt.ie/gardens/gardens/

the 6th Viscount Powerscourt instructed his architect, Daniel Robertson, to draw up new schemes for the gardens....
...The death of the 6th Viscount in 1844 meant that alterations to the gardens ceased until his son resumed the work in the late 1850s.

Now it's probably a coincidence that the Robertson name pops up there, but no harm in checking him out too...

[LesleyB]

I think the following part is
"....Ann Scott this parish"

[ChristineW]

Oh Wilma, I do think it makes a lot of sense now as to where this couple disappeared to. I genuinely cannot find evidence of them living or dying anywhere in Scotland. What has opened my eyes during my search for them is just how mobile the people were at that time, especially in the Angus area - perhaps the social conditions meant that the more 'skilled' or 'desirable' workers moved to wherever the better paid jobs were!

Thank you so much for the links - it's great to see there is so much information there, so it will give me plenty food for thought.

Strangely enough, when I was trying to dig into Alexander Robertson's (Scottish) past, I did notice the name Daniel Robertson (I remember thinking it was an unusual name as I had never come across a Daniel before in my research) on an 1841 census, who was a brother of a 'potential' Alexander Robertson. Yes, it may be nothing but, as you say, it is worth investigating further!

Again, thank you - you've been great! And thanks to Lesley for your interpretation skills too (though I wish she had a more unusual name than Ann Scott fae Dundee)!

Christine