Several years ago I came in possession of the report prepared by the 'Scots Ancestry Research Society'. In that report they were able to trace my ancestors back to Thomas Dingwall and his wife Kate Stewart (Stuart) of Ussie. There were no dates provided in that report. The report did indicate that they had 2 sons, John born 10th and baptized 12 Aug 1763 at Ussie and Alexander born 8th Oct 1769 and baptized on 17 Oct 1769. I've never been able to find any records of other siblings.
I would like to find the DOB, DOD for both Thomas Dingwall and Kate Stewart and an extra plus would be if the names of their respective parents could be found.
Thomas Dingwall 17??
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Re: Thomas Dingwall 17??
Hello Piobreachd
Checking on the LDS family search only comes up with extracts for John and Alexander, it does not show any more children to Thomas and Kate.
There is no marriage listed for the couple, neither does any birth information come up for Thomas and Kate, I only checked in Ross and Cromarty, as they often did not move far in those days. I had a quick look on Scotlands People (GRO) but could only find John for some reason Alexander does not show up, even though the match on LDS is an extract.
Checking on the LDS family search only comes up with extracts for John and Alexander, it does not show any more children to Thomas and Kate.
There is no marriage listed for the couple, neither does any birth information come up for Thomas and Kate, I only checked in Ross and Cromarty, as they often did not move far in those days. I had a quick look on Scotlands People (GRO) but could only find John for some reason Alexander does not show up, even though the match on LDS is an extract.
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Re: Thomas Dingwall 17??
Hi Stew & Piobreachd,
Both 'sons' appear on both the online IGI and ScotlandsPeople. However there is a problem - the dates. If they are taken at face value then the sons were born 51 years apart.
Online IGI
1. JOHN DINGWALL - Gender: Male Christening: 12 AUG 1763 Fodderty, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland
2. ALEXANDER DINGWALL - Gender: Male Christening: 17 OCT 1814 Fodderty, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland
ScotlandsPeople
1 17/10/1814 DINGWALL ALEXANDER THOMAS DINGWALL/KATE STEWART FR 144 M FODDERTY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 065/ 0010 0137
2 12/08/1763 DINGWALL JOHN THOMAS DINGWALL/KATHERINE STEWART FR 43 M FODDERTY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 065/ 0010 0036
On the other hand a closer look at the OPR scanned images on ScotlandsPeople casts a doubt upon that. The page with Alexander's baptismal record looks to be in the same handwriting as the page with John's baptismal record. The page with John's baptismal record on it has the year 1763 written at the top. The page with Alexander's baptismal record has no year written on it. The page before Alexander's record has one paragraph about the parish church burial ground in 1821. The page after Alexander's record is October 1815 to January 1816. My feeling is that both of these pages have fallen out of the book and been placed in at the end, not belonging there and not belonging together.
Therefore I am casting doubt on the year for Alexander's baptismal record, but cannot prove what year it belongs to, apart from the handwriting being similar (same?) between the two baptismal records. I am assuming that they are from the era of the same session clerk, and therefore reasonably close in years.
However, I cannot prove this theory. If the years taken by the LDS and SP from the OPR book are correct at 1763 and 1814, it should be safe to say that they are not brothers.
Food for thought,
AndrewP
Both 'sons' appear on both the online IGI and ScotlandsPeople. However there is a problem - the dates. If they are taken at face value then the sons were born 51 years apart.
Online IGI
1. JOHN DINGWALL - Gender: Male Christening: 12 AUG 1763 Fodderty, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland
2. ALEXANDER DINGWALL - Gender: Male Christening: 17 OCT 1814 Fodderty, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland
ScotlandsPeople
1 17/10/1814 DINGWALL ALEXANDER THOMAS DINGWALL/KATE STEWART FR 144 M FODDERTY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 065/ 0010 0137
2 12/08/1763 DINGWALL JOHN THOMAS DINGWALL/KATHERINE STEWART FR 43 M FODDERTY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 065/ 0010 0036
On the other hand a closer look at the OPR scanned images on ScotlandsPeople casts a doubt upon that. The page with Alexander's baptismal record looks to be in the same handwriting as the page with John's baptismal record. The page with John's baptismal record on it has the year 1763 written at the top. The page with Alexander's baptismal record has no year written on it. The page before Alexander's record has one paragraph about the parish church burial ground in 1821. The page after Alexander's record is October 1815 to January 1816. My feeling is that both of these pages have fallen out of the book and been placed in at the end, not belonging there and not belonging together.
Therefore I am casting doubt on the year for Alexander's baptismal record, but cannot prove what year it belongs to, apart from the handwriting being similar (same?) between the two baptismal records. I am assuming that they are from the era of the same session clerk, and therefore reasonably close in years.
However, I cannot prove this theory. If the years taken by the LDS and SP from the OPR book are correct at 1763 and 1814, it should be safe to say that they are not brothers.
Food for thought,
AndrewP
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Re: Thomas Dingwall 17??
Thanks for all your effort Andrew and Stew.
I find it interesting that the dates I have from the 'Scots Ancestry Research Society' for Alexander show his DOB as 8 Oct 1769 and that he was christened on 17 Oct 1769 and the date in IGI is 17 Oct 1814. The only part that is different is the year.
Quoting from the 'Scots Ancestry Research Society' report, "The old parochial registers of Fodderty (birth records blank 1744 to January 1759 and February 1766 to 1770, excet for a page of entries for 1769 are in the records for 1815)."
To my way of thinking the 1814 year is in error.
Merry Christmas to all.
Jack
I find it interesting that the dates I have from the 'Scots Ancestry Research Society' for Alexander show his DOB as 8 Oct 1769 and that he was christened on 17 Oct 1769 and the date in IGI is 17 Oct 1814. The only part that is different is the year.
Quoting from the 'Scots Ancestry Research Society' report, "The old parochial registers of Fodderty (birth records blank 1744 to January 1759 and February 1766 to 1770, excet for a page of entries for 1769 are in the records for 1815)."
To my way of thinking the 1814 year is in error.
Merry Christmas to all.
Jack