OPR Birth and Marriage Abbreviations .....

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Ealasaid
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OPR Birth and Marriage Abbreviations .....

Post by Ealasaid » Mon May 08, 2006 5:35 pm

Hello,

I am new to both ScotlandsPeople and to this forum, and of course have question :D

Both records I have obtained for births and marraiges have, what look to me like U. S. before the name and maiden surname of mother.
I was wondering what this abbreviation might stand for? My first guess is unmarried surname.

Thank you.
[color=blue]* BURNETT, LAMONT, SMITH, STRACHAN *
~ Old Machar, Aberdeen ~ and British Columbia, Canada[/color]

Ted
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Post by Ted » Mon May 08, 2006 5:41 pm

Hi Elasaid

Welcome to TS - you will find everyone really helpful here. The letters before the surname on the certificates you have found will most certainly be MS - meaning - maiden surname.

Best regards

Ted
Looking for Allan / Gordon / Troup / McInnes / Grant / Taylor / Jackson from Aberdeen (city & shire) & Banffshire
Alexander / Allan / Stewart in W Lothian
Allan / Burnett in USA and Canada / Davidson & Philp in Fife and Lanarkshire

Ted
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Post by Ted » Mon May 08, 2006 6:02 pm

Hi again


I noticed that you have Burnett's in Aberdeen on your 'wish list'. I have some Burnetts in that area - mostly from the family of James Burnett and Barbara Mowat. James was born in Aberdeen circa 1846 - lots of his family went to the USA to Vermont area. James died in Aberdeen in 1923 and Barbara in 1929. Anyone similar in the lines you are looking for?

Best regards

Ted
Looking for Allan / Gordon / Troup / McInnes / Grant / Taylor / Jackson from Aberdeen (city & shire) & Banffshire
Alexander / Allan / Stewart in W Lothian
Allan / Burnett in USA and Canada / Davidson & Philp in Fife and Lanarkshire

JimM
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Post by JimM » Mon May 08, 2006 6:09 pm

Hi Ealasaid
As Ted says .... it will most certainly be maiden surname,
This form of address is found on statutory certificates (post 1855)

On OPR's (pre 1855) you will usually find something along these lines

Janet - lawful daughter to John Smith and Agnes Brown in this parish was baptised 28th April.

Good luck with your research :)

Jim
researching
McIntyre, Menzies, Cowley, Pearson, Copland, McCammond, Forbes, Edgar etc. in Scotland
Skinner in Northumberland

Ealasaid
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Post by Ealasaid » Tue May 09, 2006 2:02 am

Hello,

Thank you Ted and Jim.

How could I not see that?!! :oops: Thank you for helping me with this. Now, even though I still see a 'u' I can see the resemblance with the 'm' in Mary, for example.

Ted - So far I have very limited information about my Burnett ancestors. Using ScotlandsPeople is my first real attempt to hunt this line down. I was reluctant because of the cost, but I've jumped in and already I am pleased as I found a number of records straight off the bat.

What I know so far...

George Burnett (b. abt 1836) married Elizabeth Strachan (b. abt 1839) November 29, 1867
(George's parents: George Burnett and Mary Lamont)
(Elizabeth's parents: James Strachan and Jane Smith)

George and Elizabeth had at least one child (so far as I know)
Elizabeth Jane Strachan Burnett b. Aug. 9 1871, Old Machar, Aberdeen.

Around 1871/2 the family immigrated to Canada and settled on Vancouver Island in British Columbia.

Perhaps there is a connection there that only more research can tell.

Thank you again for answering my newbie question.
[color=blue]* BURNETT, LAMONT, SMITH, STRACHAN *
~ Old Machar, Aberdeen ~ and British Columbia, Canada[/color]

nelmit
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Post by nelmit » Tue May 09, 2006 4:12 pm

Hello and welcome Ealasaid,

Don't forget the IGI when searching - here is George with siblings.

You searched for: Father: George Burnett, Mother: Mary Lamont

1. GEORGE BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 AUG 1836 Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland

2. ALEXANDER BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JUN 1838 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

3. ROBERT BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 10 JAN 1846 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

4. ANNE BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 SEP 1847 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

5. MARGARET BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 NOV 1843 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

6. JOHN BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 DEC 1854 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

7. JANE BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 APR 1841 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

8. WILLIAM BURNETT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 MAR 1850 Belhelvie, Aberdeen, Scotland

The 1841 census for Aberdeenshire is also on Freecen

Piece: SCT1841/174 Place: Belhelvie-Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Belhelvie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 3 Page: 7
Address: Damhead Orrock

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BURNET George M 25 Farmer Aberdeenshire
BURNET Mary F 25 Wife Aberdeenshire
BURNET George M 4 Son Aberdeenshire
BURNET Alexander M 3 Son Aberdeenshire
BURNET Jane F 2m Aberdeenshire
FIFE Jean F 15 Femal Servant Aberdeenshire

Good luck,
Annette M

Ealasaid
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Post by Ealasaid » Tue May 09, 2006 5:28 pm

Hello Annette,

Wow, thanks! I knew about these databases but had only just obtained the information for George and his parents and had not yet done any further searching. Thanks for being so helpful!
[color=blue]* BURNETT, LAMONT, SMITH, STRACHAN *
~ Old Machar, Aberdeen ~ and British Columbia, Canada[/color]

Ealasaid
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IGI and FreeCEN

Post by Ealasaid » Wed May 10, 2006 6:46 am

I have a further question for genealogy researchers, regarding the information found on databases such as IGI <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true> and Freecen <http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl>.

Do you, as researchers, follow this information up, i.e. obtain the documents for christening or copies of the census entry, to verify the transcription?

If yes, how far do you go - do you look for your direct ancestors only (grand- and great grandgrandparents, etc.), or do you also look for records for their siblings?

Thank you,
Ealasaid
[color=blue]* BURNETT, LAMONT, SMITH, STRACHAN *
~ Old Machar, Aberdeen ~ and British Columbia, Canada[/color]

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Wed May 10, 2006 7:34 am

Hi Ealasaid
Do you, as researchers, follow this information up, i.e. obtain the documents for christening or copies of the census entry, to verify the transcription?
Absolutley! You should always try to view the original source of the information - as soon as trnascriptions are involved, [later - just noticed this unintentional typo - but it rather proves the point!!] errors can (and do!) creep in... initially I would concentrate your efforts on making sure you have proper documentation for your direct line, then....
how far do you go - do you look for your direct ancestors only (grand- and great grandgrandparents, etc.), or do you also look for records for their siblings?
That is entirely up to each researcher- but you may miss an awful lot of interesting information if you stick to direct line only. Often you need to move sideways to siblings to find the information you need, and it helps give you a much better idea of the "whole" picture if you are a "Family Researcher" - you will know what names to expect within that family, you will have much more of an idea of what their lives were like. Looking at brothers and sisters of your direct line can also introduce you to other researchers who might even turn out to be distant cousins and they can often help you fill in some of the "blank" areas of you tree which might be very difficult to find out about yourself.

Best wishes
Lesley
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Ealasaid
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Post by Ealasaid » Wed May 10, 2006 8:35 pm

Thanks Lesley,

I absolutely agree with every point you raised.

There have been times in the past when family members, looking at my documentation, have remarked to me things like "why are you researching these people - they're not your direct ancestors" ... but I have found that by researching these more distant (and sometimes non-blood) relations I have not only enriched my research but sometimes I have been able to make connections with cousins or to help others with their research.

However, I have gotten carried away at times and began researching my ancestors siblings children and their spouses parents, etc. I still consider this as part of 'the family tree' but it may not necessarily be 'my family tree.' This happens more when I'm at a brick wall type of situation in my research, and therefore feel a rush at finding any information in anyway related to my tree.

I guess I asked because for something like the IGI records listed in the posting above this could equate to quite a sum of money to seek out the records/registrations in ScotlandsPeople - but if I don't verify then I could be taken off the path by any slight miss-transcription. This is my first subscription database – I have been fortunate enough to use a subscription database for free at my local library – so I guess I’m just weighing out my options.

Sorry – my message is a bit off-thread, but it organically grew out of my original question. Thanks.

Ealasaid
[color=blue]* BURNETT, LAMONT, SMITH, STRACHAN *
~ Old Machar, Aberdeen ~ and British Columbia, Canada[/color]