When there are two entries for the same marriage.....

Post by **emanday** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:24 pm

Before we had the images it was just a case of deciding which entry might be the actual wedding date, if any.

Now that we can actually see the images I was faced with a dilemma. Two entries for the same couple - which one to choose?

Ended up opening both, and what a treasure!

One entry gives the groom's occupation, Tailor, and both his and the bride's addresses. It gives the name of the elder who entered the details and the date and the minister who married them, the name of his church and the marriage date.

Surely the other entry couldn't be this good - Wrong!

It is the actual marriage entry and is on a form. It gives the bride's father's name and his occupation of Merchant and, as he was also one of the witnesses, with the other being the same surname as the groom, but occupation Senior Tailor, I'd say the chances are high he is the groom's father.

S'wunnerful

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:38 pm

Hi Mary

S'wunnerful

It sure is!! I think the OPR entries are such a thrill when they contain some little nugget of extra information. Lucky you!!

Best wishes
Lesley

sheilajim · Post by **sheilajim** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:54 am

Hi Mary

Congratulations! That was really a good OPR you got. $\:D/$ From what I have seen so far you have been very lucky.

I have one OPR Marriage that just gives the names of the bride and groom and nothing else.

Let's hope that there are more OPR's out there like the one that you got.

Regards,

Sheila

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:10 am

Wow that was excellent news emanday!

So far the only extra piece of information I have is a father's first name for a bride and the actual townships of the bride and groom...but it is something I didn't have before, so I am chuffed.

I hope to one day come across such a gem as you have.

Here is a question for those in the know....did people have to marry in at least one of their parishes of birth or did they just marry in the parish they were living in at the time?

Nina

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:47 am

ninatoo wrote:......snipped..........
Here is a question for those in the know....did people have to marry in at least one of their parishes of birth or did they just marry in the parish they were living in at the time?

Nina

Whaur they bided wis quite OK.

However, if one or both had only recently moved into the parish, the minister might require that the banns were also cried in the previous parish(es).

Only once so far in 21 years, but I have seen the banns cried in 4 (four) parishes, - work it out

David

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:57 am

Hi Nina

....did people have to marry in at least one of their parishes of birth or did they just marry in the parish they were living in at the time?

I think it also depended how far they were from home - when many people from rural areas moved into the central belt to find work, met their intended there, then they married where they now lived and worked.
Otherwise the pattern with my lot tends to favour the bride's parish if she still lived near home.

Best wishes
Lesley

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:11 pm

And to add to Lesley's post, the strong tradition was for the marriage to take place in the bride's parish, but that could be parish of residence of the family, not necessarily parish of birth if the whole family had moved away.

David

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:40 pm

Thanks for that!

Nina

Post by **emanday** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:05 am

I though it might be helpful for you to see the two entries so, after admin approval, one is the Banns being read in Old Machar (one of five on the page) and the second is the Marriage in Aberdeen (one of four on the page).

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1019
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1020

The marriage one seems very well organised with an obviously preprinted sheet for the purpose.

<image URLs added, LesleyB>

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:19 am

WOW!!!

How precious! You lucky thing!

Nina