Robert Spence and Mary ?.....

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angel
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Post by angel » Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:50 pm

Hello Jack

Merry Christmas.

John Was Living in Glasgow most of his life me married there and died there but on all the censuses he states being born Linthigow. The ages don't vary that much on the censuses.

I had a look at teh IGI and all the births for Robert and Euphan are extracted there are alson submitted entries as the daughter Janet went to NZ and there is a submitter for the family's births who stays in NZ.

I will look and see if I can find deaths for some of the names that you have given me to see if that will help to confirm if that is John's parents. Thank you once more for you help.

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England

trish1
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Post by trish1 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:53 am

Alexander appears to have lived post 1855
1861 High St Linlithgow 668/1 Ed 3 p 9
Alexr Spence 65 head born Linlithgow Shoe Maker Master emp 20 men & 6 boys
Helen Spence 50 wife
Robert Spence 25 son general practioner
Edward Spence 22 son accountant
Alexr Spence 21 son shoemaker
Elizabeth M Spence 16 daur
Isabella Douglas 18 servant

Also Edward Spence age 55 living 2 Station Road Linlithgow 668/1 Ed 1 page 4 - with wife Janet and 8 children.

Trish

angel
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Post by angel » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:22 pm

hello Trish

Thank you so much for the extra info that will narrow down the dates for death searches and will be a great help.

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England

angel
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Post by angel » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:29 pm

Hello People

I did searches on SP for the family and they all have the parents name correct - Robert Spence and Euphemia Marshall. On William's death cert his fathers occupation is described as a Leather Merchant which the same as my Johns death cert.

Most of that family stayed in Shoemaking and are least 2 brothers went into medicine. I don't know if this helps me or not but I am thinking this could be the parents that I am looking for. Has anyone have any futher thoughts about this family? I would be please to hear from you so that I can confirm one way or another if this is my family.

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England

Jack
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Post by Jack » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:32 pm

Hi Heather,
No conclusive evidence.
But father Robert SPENCE's occupation on these three DCs does have a connection to leather.
Maybe he was all of them at various periods over the years.
John's DC says Leather Merchant.
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Shoe Manufacturer - Alexander b.1795 - died as aged 68, Linlithgow 1864.
Tanner - Edward b.1805 - died as aged 65, Iona 1870.
Shoemaker - Euphan b.1809 - died as Euphemia aged 76, Old Machar 1885.
--
Jack
ps - just noticed you have the info!

karenmcc
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Post by karenmcc » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:43 pm

Hi Heather,

Do you have children for John SPENCE. Mayby they used the naming pattern. You said one of John's sons may have signed the DC and that he married and lived most his life in Glasgow, so mayby his children never met their Gran, whereas the other families stayed in Linlithgow, more likely to know the correct name of Granny.

Karen McCubbin
Lochiel, McKinlay, McGibbon/McCubbin, Cunningham, McDougall, Burnside - Lanarkshire->Ayrshire.
Hay, Hannah, - Kirkcudbright.
McIntosh, McQuaters/McWatters, White, - Kilmarnock
Murdoch, Hope, McMillan - Muirkirk

angel
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Post by angel » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:06 am

Hello Karen

John's children are:-

Mary
Martha-2 x great grandmother
Robert
Margaret
Walter-he registered his dads death and said his grans name was Mary ?
David

Heather
[b]Spence[/b]~Linlithgow
[b]Downie[/b]~Glasgow
[b]Queen/Quin[/b]~Glagow Ireland
[b]Menzies[/b]~Scotland/England