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nelmit
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Post by nelmit » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:33 pm

LuAnn wrote:Unfortunately mine "folks" have a very common name- Smith :shock: and Ross. Have obtained possible names for the next generation back and will try an earlier census. see if that works.
Thanks for all the suggestions will keep trying
Can someone enlighten me as to what county Lochee , Forfarshire would be in?
Best .
LuAnn
Hi LuAnn,

As Cathie says Lochee is part of Dundee in the County of Angus.

FREECEN has transcriptions for the whole of Angus in 1841.

Regards,
Annette M

Andrew C.
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Post by Andrew C. » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:19 pm

I find Freecen a wonderful resource however I am wondering why it doesn't infringe copyright rules?

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Post by AndrewP » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:43 pm

Andrew C. wrote:I find Freecen a wonderful resource however I am wondering why it doesn't infringe copyright rules?
Hi Andrew,

My understanding is that the data alone is not copyright. The copyright article is the data presented on the original census forms - that which is held by GROS and available via ScotlandsPeople. So data transcribed from the census forms (usually taken from the microfilms) is allowed to be re-published.

All the best,

AndrewP

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:18 pm

AndrewP wrote:
Andrew C. wrote:I find Freecen a wonderful resource however I am wondering why it doesn't infringe copyright rules?
Hi Andrew,

My understanding is that the data alone is not copyright. The copyright article is the data presented on the original census forms - that which is held by GROS and available via ScotlandsPeople. So data transcribed from the census forms (usually taken from the microfilms) is allowed to be re-published.

All the best,

AndrewP
Spot on !!

It's not the data itself that is copyright but its presentation.


The FreeCen site, with a little exploration, will tell you the progress as regards your area of interest.


Interestingly, the FreeCen data involves a true double entry approach, i.e. two different folk independently transcribe the same material.

Any differences in these inputs are then referred to a third person to resolve the situation: if that third person continues to see an interpretation problem, then the situation is referred to an even more expert person.................. and so on up at least one more level.


That's true double entry, as opposed to "supposed" double entry as used by certain major data providers whose name I couldn't possibly mention. [soapbox] [5 cups] [soapbox] [5 cups]

David