Robertson/Forrester/

[v_b_gael_h]

We are trying to follow through with data pertaining spouses of SNEDDON
men.
We have tracked back to a marriage of 1820 between Sneddon and Robertson but at a loss in determining marriages of 7 daughters and 1 son; we were able to determine 2 sons. (This put a new found cousin and I in contact). We were even stonewalled trying to determine a family trace of both parentages other than year of birth of each.
This query also is being researched within the Forrester links.

Any inputs would be gratefully appreciated.

[paddyscar]

Hi v_b_gael_h:

Wecome, again Perhaps if you could give the first names of the ones you do have, someone may be able to connect a reference.

Where have you looked so far? Have you checked the IGI for any likely connections? http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp It's a free search which may give you some launching points.

Being that your marriage is 1820 and the children would likely be born before the statutory registrations began, your best source on ScotlandsPeople will be the Old Parish Registers (OPRs), but these records are primarily of the established church.

Also have you checked out the census records?

Frances

[v_b_gael_h]

Dear Frances:

Thank you for your quick response, it sure emphasizes how readily members operate within this society.
In answers to you questions we have gone through the IGI; ScotlandPeople; GenUki and the likes and managed to find the original marriage date of Sneddon/Robertson.

The Joseph Sneddon/Elizabeth Robertson daughters (7) and 1 son are as follows:

Margaret b 1822; Dalkeith
Isabella b 1824; Lasswade
Janet b 12 June 1826; Newbattle
Maisy b 25 April 1830; Cockpen ?
Georgina b 26 February 1832 " ?
Agnes b 7 February 1836 " ?
Elizabeth b 20 May 1838 " ?
Thomas b 1 April 1843 " ?

We were able to account for James and Joseph, also sons of the above named from which connected my new-found cousin and I, although there is difficulty in determining birth locale for Joseph. My cousin was able to acquire most of the above data and question marked areas are presumed birth locale.

Pertaining the Josph Sneddon/Catherine Forrester unity of 1868 (Joseph
Sneddon 5/12/1840 - 24/1/1922) & (Catherine Forrester 22/5/1842 - 17/3/1908) are:

Helen 26 June 1867
Elizabeth 24 March 1869
Joseph 5 September 1870 (my ggrandfather m Christina
Whitehead 29 July 1892)
Robina 1 July 1872
James 18 December 1874
Janet 6 February 1876
Thomas 16 June 1878
Catherine 30 August 1880

Sure seems to be a lot of females back then that fathers must have been working overtime to produce enough heirs.

Just an intrigue: Were fathers responsible back then too for paying the marriage of their daughters?

Thank you for the time and patience. Again thank you for your reply as this will help both myself and my cousin.

[SarahND]

Hello,
The 1851 census will at least give you birth locations for the family members. And following the family through the census will also give you an idea of where they might have married.

1851
84, 2nd Row, Newtongrange, Midlothian
Joseph Sneddon, 51, Head, born Alloa, Clackmannanshire, Coal Miner
Elizabeth Sneddon, 47, Wife, born Lasswade, Midlothian
Georgina Sneddon, 19, Daughter, born Cockpen, Midlothian
Isabella Sneddon, 17, Daughter, born Cockpen, Midlothian
Agnes Sneddon, 15, Daughter, born Cockpen, Midlothian
Elizabeth Sneddon, 12, Daughter, born Cockpen, Midlothian
Joseph Sneddon, 10, Son, born Cockpen, Midlothian, Scholar
Thomas Sneddon 6, Son, born Newbattle, Midlothian, Sch

All the best,
Sarah

[Jack]

Hi v,
Some censuses; gives birthplaces for Joseph SNEDDON & Elizabeth ROBERTSON.
It's always best, if possible, to look at the original pages - these are transcriptions.
--
1841 census 676 Ed 5 p 14 (Cockpen)
Gowkshill.
Joseph SNADDEN, 40, coal miner, b SCT
Elizth. SNADDEN, 35, -----------------b MLN
Janet SNADDEN, 15, ------------------b MLN
James SNADDEN, 13, ---------------b MLN
Marion SNADDEN, 11, --------------b MLN
Georgenia SNADDEN, 9, ----------b MLN
Isabella SNADDEN, 7, -------------b MLN
Agnes SNADDEN, 5, -------------b MLN
Elizth. SNADDEN, 3, ------------b MLN
Joseph SNADDEN, 7mos, ----b MLN
--
1851 census 695 Ed 8 p 6 (Newbattle)
84, 2nd Row, Newtongrange.
Joseph SNEDDEN, head, marr, 51, coal miner, b Alloa, CLK
Elizabeth SNEDDEN, wife, marr, 47, --------------b Lasswade, MLN
Georginia SNEDDEN, daur, u/m 19, -------------b Cockpen, MLN
Isabella SNEDDEN, daur, u/m 17, --------------b Cockpen, MLN
Agnes SNEDDEN, daur, 15, -------------------b Cockpen, MLN
Elizabeth SNEDDEN, daur, 12, ------------b Cockpen, MLN
Joseph SNEDDEN, son, 10, scholar, b Cockpen, MLN
Thomas SNEDDEN, son, 6, scholar, b Newbattle, MLN
--
1861 census 676 Ed 4 p 12 (Cockpen)
16 Gowkshill.
Joseph SNEDDON, head, 61, formerly coal miner, b Alloa, CLK
Elizabeth SNEDDON, daur, 22, factory worker, b Cockpen, Edinburgh
Joseph SNEDDON, son, 20, coal miner, b Cockpen, Edinburgh
Joseph SNEDDON, gr-son, 10, scholar, b Cockpen, Edinburgh
(wonder where wife Elizabeth is?)
--
1871 census 698B Ed 2 p 22 (Cockpen - Stobhill)
Gowkshill.
Joseph SNEDDON, head, 72, coal miner, b Alloa, CLK
Elizabeth SNEDDON, wife, 67, -----------------------b Lasswade, Edin.shire
Joseph SNEDDON, gr-son, 20, railway engine stoker, b Newbattle, Edin.shire
--
1881 census 698B Ed 2 p 28 (Cockpen - Stobhill)
Gowkshill.
Elizabeth SNEDDON, head, 77, -----------------b Lasswade, Edin.shire
Joseph SNEDDON, gr-son, 10, scholar, b Cockpen, Edin.shire
--
The DC of Elizabeth's hubby Joseph will hopefully give his parents, and likewise with Elizabeth's DC.
There are a couple of possibles in the IGI - so DCs needed to confirm parents' names.

Added later,
Joseph SNEDDEN (74) d. 13 Jan 1874 - Stobhill, MLN [but SP has forename indexed as Jsoeph...]
(Parents as James SNEDDEN & Iabella SNEDDEN ms SNEDDEN)
&
Elizabeth SNEDDON (86), d. 6 Jan 1890 - Newbattle, MLN.
(Parents as Thomas ROBERTSON & Margaret ROBERTSON ms LAWSON)
--
Jack
ps - Sarah, you're too quick for us auld yins...!

[SarahND]

ps - Sarah, you're too quick for us auld yins...!

But I only posted one census, rather than FIVE You're still the fastest census man in town

[v_b_gael_h]

Dear Sarah and Jack:

Thank you for the information which delighted both my cousin and myself.
She, my new found cousin, said she was getting herself muddled up and confused between variation of spellings within the surnames and she wasn't too sure exactly where she had searched. She's not sure if she checked within all the census years or not although she had encompassed much in IGI; ScottishPeople and at the Registry House.
With me it is harder to get access to a lot of data being in Canada, and pay-ver-view can only be pursued within an amount my disability budget can spare.

By chance, do you two have a challenge against each other? You sure seem to have a very friendly disposition toward one another that it makes this site feel very friendly.

[Russell]

Hi v

Jack is our census expert. He can make a census produce answers faster than anyone else.
Sarah is our resident expert at cross-border stuff. shen can manage to find relatives whether they went to England or to the USA and build log cabins in her spare time.
If you need a legal interpretation AnneM is ready to cast her legal eagle eye on things.

Then every so often we throw a virual party whether beach or Hallowe'en and let our hair down.
Folk start by asking questions (No question is ever stupid!) and very shortly find that they too are giving answers to things.
It's fun, it's friendly and it spans the world just as Scots have done over centuries.
Glad you have joined us.

Russell

[SarahND]

Rule #1 Never believe everything Russell says.

None of us are "experts," we're just people who enjoy rummaging around in census records... right Jack? Once you've rummaged enough on your own account, you'll find it comes naturally to start doing it for others

And maybe you'll eventually feel like helping with the log cabin, too

All the best,
Sarah

[Jack]

None of us are "experts," we're just people who enjoy rummaging around in census records... right Jack?

Sarah, i most emphatically agree!
You summed it up perfectly....

Cheers - Jack