help please on familysearch

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:17 am

Hi everyone,

I have a John Beveridge born 1765 in Dunfermline - Father John Beveridge mother Margaret Dale. If i assume that the witnesses - James Beveridge and Adam Beveridge were John's brothers, could i try and do a search for the family ? which would include John,Adam and James. Can anyone advise the best way to try it?

Thanks
Ailsa

Post by **Merlot** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:35 am

Hi Ailsa,

If you input names John Beveridge and Margaret Dale in the "parents" boxes and just click "British Isles" and "Scotland" it should give you the names of children of this couple. Also will give you children of any other couple with these names, however, I don't imagine there would be any more.
Good Luck,

Merlot

Post by **Tracey** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:55 am

But for your search option on the left hand side you should click International Genealogical Index then insert parents names ect, i dont think it works with just the "All resources or Ancestral file"" options ?
Someone will correct me i hope if i am wrong

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:31 am

Hi Merlot and Tracey,

Thanks for the replies - I thought there was another way that i did not know about.
I will continue.

Ailsa

Langtonian · Post by **Langtonian** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:08 am

A search with mothers name as Deal rather than Dale will be more productive on this one.

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:56 pm

You can omit the mother's surname completely - which can be useful - or may make the search too wide if a common name. Most English baptisms do not include the mother's maiden name, so it is more usual to search without a surname for the mother.

If you do a parent search on ALL resources, you can only enter the parent names - no locations or dates - can be useful but can also give many many results!

It would presumably be that the witnesses would be the siblings of John snr rather than John Jnr - you would need to know the name of his parents to do a parent search for this family. The batch search that I mention below might work (if they were all in the same parish & there were some extracted records), however the batches for Dunfermline cover relatively short time periods.

It seems that the IGI records for this family are all "submitted" records. When the records found are extracted from church records another method of finding siblings is to click on the "batch" number and you then have a new search with this batch number inserted. You can then give a surname only and find all folks with that name.

You can also find the batches for your parish through the Hugh Wallis site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... umbers.htm

Using this method seems to confirm that there are no parish records in the IGI for the children of John and Margaret, it might, however, be possible to find the earlier generation & hence the "brothers", but I don't seem to be able to find an extracted birth for Adam Beveridge at a suitable time

You can also do a family search on SP pre civil registration, noting you have to be more careful with spelling - the children of John and Margaret seem to be findable on SP - I didn't look there for Adam.

Trish

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:24 pm

Hi Trish1,
Thanks for all the helpful hints - It was the witnesses i was more interested in. I have John's parents John Belfrage and Janet Bell married 1715 in Inverkeithing and the family but no mention of an Adam.
John Belfrage married 30th Dec 1715 to Janet Bell in Inverkeithing Fife

Children
John Belfrage b.13.01.1717
Rebecca Belfrage b.19.06.1720
Jean Beveridge b. 17.03.1723
John Beveridge b.04.01.1726 (my relation)
James Beveridge b.17.03.1728
Janett Beveridge b. 03.09.1730

I was hoping Adam have been an Uncle to help me get further back before John and Janet.
Maybe once the death certificate come online i will have better luck.
Many thanks for looking.

Ailsa

caljam371 · Post by **caljam371** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:00 pm

I've just discovered that my 4th Great Grandfather was an Adam Beveridge.

Married Catherine Beverage (more inbreeding???) - 30-05-1805, Edinburgh

Children:
Margaret b. c1815 Orwell, Kinross (Can't find birth so far)
John b. c1817 (again can't find birth)

I'm thinking this is the family in 1841 -
Piece: SCT1841/463 Place: Orwell -Kinross-shire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Orwell Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Orwell
Folio: 0 Page: 6
Address: Milnathort, Old Perth Road

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BEVERIDGE Catharine F 53 Kinross-shire
BEVERIDGE Elisabeth F 25 Sewer Kinross-shire
BEVERIDGE Margaret F 23 Sewer Kinross-shire
BEVERIDGE John M 21 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Jman Kinross-shire
BEVERIDGE James M 18 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Jman Kinross-shire
ANNAN Jess F 21 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Outside Census County (1841)

The son John (c1817) married Helen Paterson and had a son Adam - sounds like it may be a family name!!!

Margaret married David Brand.

Margaret and her brother John died within days of each other in 1875 - nice wee bonus when I bought Margaret's death entry)

This may be a long shot but there may well be a link. Let me know if any of this looks familiar.

Post by **AndrewP** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:39 pm

caljam371 wrote:Married Catherine Beverage (more inbreeding???) - 30-05-1805, Edinburgh

Children:
Margaret b. c1815 Orwell, Kinross (Can't find birth so far)
John b. c1817 (again can't find birth)

Hi Caljam,

There is an LDS submission on the IGI for an older son to this couple, but no sign of the two you know about.

DAVID BEVERIDGE
. . Birth: 08 JUL 1808
. . Christening: 24 JUL 1808, Kinross, Kinross-shire
Parents:
. . Father: ADAM BEVERIDGE
. . Mother: CATHARINE BEVERIDGE

All the best,

AndrewP

caljam371 · Post by **caljam371** » Sun May 18, 2008 2:03 pm

Well spoted AndrewP - Thanks!!!!