Any ideas where to look next?

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:45 am

Hi All,
I am still trying to trace my John Hardie to continue my male line on my mother's side of the family.
The last cert i can find is his son Peter's death cert. He died in 23/9/1882 age 62 in 19 Kelvin St Milton Glasgow of heart disease. He was a Blacksmith married to Janet Hunter. Informant is Robert Hunter son of 19 Bernard St.
It states that Peter's father is John Hardie (looks like Forester as occ) and mother Jane or Jessie m.s McAlpine.
The other cert for Peter i have is his marriage cert. It is an OPR 500/0030 0256 New or East Kilbride 01/12/1835 to Janet Hunter of this Parish.
It means he must have been more than 62 when he died as it would make him 15 when he was married so i am guessing he was born c 1810 - 1815.
Peter and Janet lived at 19 Kelvin St in 1881 he was 61 - birthplace Strathblane she was 66? birthplace Kilpatrick Dunbarton.
He died as above in Glasgow - Janet died 25/4/1884 Old Cumnock in Ayr age 68 son in law was the informant and i can't make out his name. Her father is Robert Hunter calico printer and mother Agnes Hunter m.s Gilfillan.

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I have followed the line up to the present from Peter and Janet and have been helped by various kind people on this board. On a few of the census results It has Peter's birthplace on a number of occasions as Strathblane Stirling.
I cannot find anything for John and J. McAlpine anywhere - not a marriage or birth - even on LDS. I even looked at deaths for both in the Stirling area but they may have moved out of the area and there are loads of John Hardies in Glasgow.
Apologies for such a long posting but i am really looking for ideas where to look next. My local LDS has closed until Sept.

Thanks for reading this,

Ailsa

Rach · Post by **Rach** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:39 am

Hi Ailsa,
Did Peter's marriage certificate have the same names of parents? It is just a thought as I have found that sometimes the informant got the names wrong.
Rae

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:40 am

Hi Rae,

Unfortunately for me the marriage parish record only states 'Peter Hardy and Janet Hunter of this parish' sometimes you get the father's name or even both parents - i think it was up to the individual parishes how they went about it. Interestingly down the left hand margin of the page it has written Hardie and Hunter next to their extract. Two different spelling of the name Hardie on the same page and maybe on the same day !

Ailsa

Rach · Post by **Rach** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:34 pm

Hi Ailsa,
Presuming that Robert, the informant, got his grandmother's maiden name wrong, the nearest I can find on 'familysearch' is John Hardie marrying Janet Gilfillan in 1813, Campsie, Stirling. They had a Peter ch 19 Oct 1813, Strathblane and a John born there too. They also had a son and a daughter born New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton.
What do you think?
Rae

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:29 pm

Hi Rae,
I also found the marriage you mention of John and Janet Gilfillan and the two sons Peter and John . What were the names of the other two children?
The birth of Peter in 1813 would fit in with his age exactly. I think i may be stuck at this point!

Ailsa

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:20 pm

Hi Ailsa

What were the names of the other two children?

You will be able to find the other two children yourself on Family Search - www.familysearch.org - go to Search Records, then choose IGI on the left. Put in the names of the parents in the Father and Mother boxes, Region > British Isles, Country > Scotland and click Search.

Best wishes
Lesley

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:12 pm

Hi All,
I decided to go with the New Kilpatrick Dumbarton link as Peter was born in Strathblane and the other children born in New Kilpatrick Dumbarton. i came up with a death of John Hardie in Dumbarton and 18/07/ 1868 age 81 Old Town Milngavie New Kilpatrick Dumbarton widower of Janet Gilfillan. So i am fairly sure that the informer had mixed up his in laws !

Ailsa

Rach · Post by **Rach** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:28 pm

Hi Ailsa,
It all sounds as though it may be coming together.
Good luck.
Rae