George Wotherspoon born abt 1700

[parlyaree]

Pointers to where to start looking for information on a George Wotherspoon born in 1700 in Craighead, Lanarkshire, Scotland, he married his wife Mrs George Wotherspoon born about 1716 in Scotland. I have had no luck so far on Scotlands People and ancestory.com:(

[LesleyB]

Hi parlyaree
And welcome to Talking Scot

To help us help you, can you tell us where you have found his year and place of birth? How have you arrived at George - where did you find his name? What year and where did he marry? Where did he die? Do you know the children to this couple?

If you can give us a bit more info it saves TS members spending time researching areas that you have already covered.

Best wishes
Lesley

[parlyaree]

Hello LesleyB,

This information was given to me by a member on Scotlands People:-

name: George WOTHERSPOON
gender: Male
birth: 1700
Of Craighead, Lanarks, , Scotland
AFN: RHZ6-CJ

Marriages (2)
spouse: Mrs. George WOTHERSPOON (AFN: X23J-MV )
Hide children (1)

child 1: Robert (Witherspoon) WOTHERSPOON (AFN: 1RN4-LB )
gender: Male
BIRTH 1734
Wanflit, Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

spouse: Miss SPOUSE (AFN: ZHJL-Z5 )
marriage: 1733
Of Craighead, Lanarks, , Scotland
Hide children (1)

child 1: Robert (Witherspoon) WOTHERSPOON (AFN: 1RN4-LB )
gender: Male
BIRTH 1734
Wanflit, Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

However, I have been searching various sites including Scotlands People to try and tie down information on a George Wotherspoon's birth abt 1700, Of Craighead, Old Moncklands, Lanark, Scotland, and also who his wife and children were. So far I have not found out anything definitive on George Wotherpoon.

What I have found is that there were the 9 Wotherspoon's listed below who were born to four fathers between 1700 and 1705 in Old Moncklands/Coatbridge area of Lanark, and this raises the question as to whether these four fathers were related and also the question as to whether any of them have the additional name of George.

1 01/08/1703 WOTHERSPOON CHRISTIAN JOHN WOTHERSPOON/ OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

2 25/02/1705 WOTHERSPOON CHRISTIAN JOHN WOTHERSPOON/ OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

3 03/05/1702 WOTHERSPOON DAVID
JOHN WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

4 02/11/1701 WOTHERSPOON GAVIN
JAMES WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

5 19/09/1703 WOTHERSPOON GAVIN
GAVIN WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

6 28/11/1703 WOTHERSPOON JAMES
THOMAS WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

7 07/10/1705 WOTHERSPOON JAMES
JOHN WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

8 06/10/1700 WOTHERSPOON PATRICK
GAVIN WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

9 01/01/1700 WOTHERSPOON WILLIAM
THOMAS WOTHERSPOON/ M OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

Regards,

James

[LesleyB]

Hi James

This information was given to me by a member on Scotlands People

Not quite sure what you mean by this - was it maybe through a contact on genes reunited or similar?
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/b ... ad/1309889

Looks like someone else is also interested in this family:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin ... d&id=I1117

And another
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.w ... .1/mb.ashx

birth: 1700
Of Craighead, Lanarks, , Scotland

This section looks to me like an estimated place and date of birth based on some other information someone has found. Without knowing the source it is a little difficult to decide how reliable it is. It looks a bit like an IGI entry. There appear to be a couple of children to a George Wotherspoon on IGI in Old Monkland in 1724 & 1726, so earlier than the ones you have note of. These are taken from the OPRs and it seems this is a parish where the mother of the child is not mentioned, so more difficult to know if it is the correct or the same George.

What I have found is that there were the 9 Wotherspoon's listed below who were born to four fathers between 1700 and 1705 in Old Moncklands/Coatbridge area of Lanark, and this raises the question as to whether these four fathers were related and also the question as to whether any of them have the additional name of George.

This is a task which could take some time to work out., and much of it may turn out to be irrelevant to the George you are seeking. So that we have a firm starting point, how did you arrive at George? Is he an ancestor of yours?

best wishes
Lesley

[parlyaree]

Hello Lesley,

My mother was a Jane Wotherspoon and from tracing back on her ancestors, I believe that George Wotherspoon was my mothers Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather. Initially the information came from a contact on Scotland People while I was researching the Drummond side of the family as my Grandmother was a Drummond who married a Wotherspoon.

I also found this information confirmed on FamilySearch.org:-

Pedigree Resource File

« Back to search results
name: George /WOTHERSPOON/
gender: Male
birth: 1700
Of Craighead, Lanarks, , Scotland
AFN: RHZ6-CJ
Marriages (1)
spouse: Mrs. George /WOTHERSPOON/ (AFN: X23J-MV )
marriage: EST 1733
[1]
Hide children (1)

child 1: Robert /WOTHERSPOON/ (AFN: 1RN4-LB )
gender: Male
BIRTH 1734
Wanflit, Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

Regards,

James

[LesleyB]

Hi James

Which child of George b. abt 1700 is your direct ancestor? Did this ancestor marry and die in Scotland or elsewhere? Is this ancestor in Scotland for various censuses or did he emigrate to Australia or America or elsewhere? What did this ancestor do for a living?

Beware of submitted entries: Pedigree Resource File is compiled from submitted trees, so not always 100% reliable - some researchers are more robust and thorough than others, so a reference there cannot, in itself, act as a confirmation of facts.
See https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/ ... ource_File
Best wishes
Lesley

[parlyaree]

Hello Lesley,

Yes, I have found that much information that is available for the early part of the 18th Century and before in not always to be relied on, I think some people grab something and sort of say well that fits and use it, that is something I am trying to avoid. I will be 69 this year and I have no immediate family and what I am trying to do is create a history of the family as accurately as possible for my nieces and nephews.

As far as I am aware all were miners or labourers and they mainly lived in the Old Monkland/Bothwell/Fauldhouse and Coatbridge areas of what is now Lanarkshire.

As far as I know most never left Scotland although some of their children may have, but before I go down that route I need to first determine the direct line back from my mother, if that makes sense.

This is the relatioship to me:-r

James b1940s This Is Me
Jane Wotherspoon b1920 My Mother
Allan Wotherspoon b1896 My Grandfather
Allan Wotherspoon b1871 My Great Grandfather
George Wotherspoon b1819 My Great Great Grandfather
Thomas Wotherspoon b1780 My Great Great Great Grandfather
George Wotherspoon b1759 My Great Great Great Great Grandfather
Robert Wotherspoon b1734 My Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather
George Wotherspoon b1700 My Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather

Time for me to log off for the day,

Goodnight and My Best Regards,

James

[LesleyB]

Hi James

I have edited your post above to remove your surname and year of birth for your own security.

From what you have said about your ancestors being miners or labourers it makes it seem unlikley that there would be testaments or wills or sasines which may have given us more family information to help you confirm the early 1700s details. It is really unfortunate that the parish records for the area you are interested in did not mention the mother's name as this also makes it difficult to confirm facts. I had a similar problem with an ancestor born in 1708, but luckily the family moved about a bit within the same county but to different parishes where the mother's name was mentioned, and so it was possible to piece together a probable family group bit by bit also watching carefully the first names chosen for children in the next generation by way of confirmation that they were most likely the same family.

I can't think of any quick solutions to sort out the various mentions of the surname in Old Monkland either. By 1700 you have reached a point where many people's trail runs cold due to there being fewer records to consult and fewer ways to cross-check information. It may be worth searching through Kirk Session records for the parish for mentions and looking at the holdings of local archives for any mentions which would help fill in a bit more of the picture.

Did Robert b.1734 have any girl children, and if so what was the name of his second girl? Also comapring the children of Robert's siblings you may see a pattern emerge which would strongly suggest the first name of their mother. If there are middle names used, these may also be significant, and could perhaps suggest a connection to a particualr surname.

Best wishes
Lesley

[parlyaree]

Hello Lesley,

From what information I have there were two children, Robert abt 1734 and possibly a daughter Margaret about 1726, I am presently looking into whether this was in fact their daughter.

A contact of mine on Genes Reunited is going in person to the National Archives of Scotland some time in November and while he is there he is going to see what he can find out about George Wotherspoon and his family.

Many thanks for your help,

James

I have edited your post above to remove your surname and year of birth for your own security.

From what you have said about your ancestors being miners or labourers it makes it seem unlikley that there would be testaments or wills or sasines which may have given us more family information to help you confirm the early 1700s details. It is really unfortunate that the parish records for the area you are interested in did not mention the mother's name as this also makes it difficult to confirm facts. I had a similar problem with an ancestor born in 1708, but luckily the family moved about a bit within the same county but to different parishes where the mother's name was mentioned, and so it was possible to piece together a probable family group bit by bit also watching carefully the first names chosen for children in the next generation by way of confirmation that they were most likely the same family.

I can't think of any quick solutions to sort out the various mentions of the surname in Old Monkland either. By 1700 you have reached a point where many people's trail runs cold due to there being fewer records to consult and fewer ways to cross-check information. It may be worth searching through Kirk Session records for the parish for mentions and looking at the holdings of local archives for any mentions which would help fill in a bit more of the picture.

Did Robert b.1734 have any girl children, and if so what was the name of his second girl? Also comapring the children of Robert's siblings you may see a pattern emerge which would strongly suggest the first name of their mother. If there are middle names used, these may also be significant, and could perhaps suggest a connection to a particualr surname.

Best wishes
Lesley