Have been looking at an OPR death for Janet Baillie , spouse of Thomas Kirk. It states that Janet is buried "East of Gordons BPl in the Canongate churchyard.(1781)
Does this mean that Janet is in an unmarked grave ?, how common a practice was this in the 18th century ?
Frances
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Re: Unmarked Graves
Hi Frances,
I don't think it necessarily means the grave is unmarked, but is located near to Gordon's burial place. Is Gordon a family member, or is it the Gordon family plot (possibly a prominent headstone or mausoleum)?
If it is an unmarked grave, I can think of two possibilities:
Wikipedia lists many of the weel-kent names buried there. The only Gordons mentioned there died after your ancestor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canongate_Kirkyard
All the best,
AndrewP
I don't think it necessarily means the grave is unmarked, but is located near to Gordon's burial place. Is Gordon a family member, or is it the Gordon family plot (possibly a prominent headstone or mausoleum)?
If it is an unmarked grave, I can think of two possibilities:
- burial in common ground - a so-called pauper's burial
- a paid-for plot, but the family couldn't afford a headstone to mark the plot
Wikipedia lists many of the weel-kent names buried there. The only Gordons mentioned there died after your ancestor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canongate_Kirkyard
All the best,
AndrewP
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Re: Unmarked Graves
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the advice.
Frances
Thanks for the advice.
Frances
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Re: Unmarked Graves
Hi Frances
Just to add to Andrew's comments. I was looking for a similarly identified grave in the South Leith Calton burial ground and it too was unmarked but close by a prominent headstone which still exists. The owners or keepers of the many graveyards my wife and I have visited kept no written records of whether a headstone or marker had been placed on the grave. There is a logic in this since plots were sold to a family and became their property and responsibility with ownership passing to the next of kin or a named new owner with ownership being proven by possession of the bill of sale papers.
Russell
PS On a visit to my g-grandparents grave in Piershill cemetery we were informed that we were due to pay £25 yearly for the upkeep. Since no family member had visited in many years we beat a hasty retreat.
Just to add to Andrew's comments. I was looking for a similarly identified grave in the South Leith Calton burial ground and it too was unmarked but close by a prominent headstone which still exists. The owners or keepers of the many graveyards my wife and I have visited kept no written records of whether a headstone or marker had been placed on the grave. There is a logic in this since plots were sold to a family and became their property and responsibility with ownership passing to the next of kin or a named new owner with ownership being proven by possession of the bill of sale papers.
Russell
PS On a visit to my g-grandparents grave in Piershill cemetery we were informed that we were due to pay £25 yearly for the upkeep. Since no family member had visited in many years we beat a hasty retreat.
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Re: Unmarked Graves
Thanks Russell.
Frances
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