Hoping someone can advise me as to where to go now. I wrote to the Mitchell Library for an obituary from July 1947, received a reply today stating that the 1947 obits were in such poor condition that the Conservation Officer had withdrawn them from issue. I have also sent off an email to the Watts Library and have received no response.
Can anyone advise where else I can get a copy of an obituary from July 1947?
Thank you,
Darlene
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Darlene
Worth a try with the National Library of Scotland at http://www.nls.uk/ who have the largest collection that I'm aware of in Scotland of Scottish newspapers ..............
Davie
Worth a try with the National Library of Scotland at http://www.nls.uk/ who have the largest collection that I'm aware of in Scotland of Scottish newspapers ..............
Davie
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Hello Darlene
If your subject is worthy of an obituary, there is a fair chance that it or something else was written in the local newspaper of the times.
Many of these papers are digitilised which means the computer can find any article of your choosing. One of the librarians at Dunfermline did this for me last week and she opened a door to a new and fascinating realm to explore. On Wednesday this week i recieved by post, at least a dozen A3 pages of news print with a bill for seven quid! Please raise your glasses to Fife Council, Local History Dept
If you find the library local to the seat of your relative's activities they will direct you to where you need to be. If you are not local to this place, it can be arranged over the phone and posted to you. Alternatively an e-mail to the nearest family history society will help.
I hope this works for you like it did for me. If not come back with specific information about the person and what he or she represented and we might find a side door to where you want to be.
Malcolm Morris
If your subject is worthy of an obituary, there is a fair chance that it or something else was written in the local newspaper of the times.
Many of these papers are digitilised which means the computer can find any article of your choosing. One of the librarians at Dunfermline did this for me last week and she opened a door to a new and fascinating realm to explore. On Wednesday this week i recieved by post, at least a dozen A3 pages of news print with a bill for seven quid! Please raise your glasses to Fife Council, Local History Dept
If you find the library local to the seat of your relative's activities they will direct you to where you need to be. If you are not local to this place, it can be arranged over the phone and posted to you. Alternatively an e-mail to the nearest family history society will help.
I hope this works for you like it did for me. If not come back with specific information about the person and what he or she represented and we might find a side door to where you want to be.
Malcolm Morris
Morris (formerly Morrice) of Fife and Geekie of Scone
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While we are on the subject, does anyone have any information as to whether there are such things as church archives.
I'm looking for anything on the Rev'd George Morris who was active in Dalry, Ayreshire up to and beyond 1899. Apparently, he celebrated his ministerial jubilee during that year whilst in Dalry, but i think he must have been in Dunfermline at the beginning of his career. This information was obtained by the way from a name search on one of the digitilised newspapers discussed above.
Any further information would oblige
Malcolm Morris
I'm looking for anything on the Rev'd George Morris who was active in Dalry, Ayreshire up to and beyond 1899. Apparently, he celebrated his ministerial jubilee during that year whilst in Dalry, but i think he must have been in Dunfermline at the beginning of his career. This information was obtained by the way from a name search on one of the digitilised newspapers discussed above.
Any further information would oblige
Malcolm Morris
Morris (formerly Morrice) of Fife and Geekie of Scone
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Hello Malcolm,I checked David Walkers ministers Index but I could only find Morrisons,no Morris.It does mention some books you might try.
Fasti ecclesiae Scoticanae: the succession of ministers in the Church of Scotland. - New Edition. – Vo III. Synod of Glasgow & Ayr - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915
Fasti ecclesiae Scoticanae: the succession of ministers in the Church of Scotland. - New Edition. – Vo II. Synods of Merse and Teviotdale Dumfries & Galloway - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915
Perhaps someone else has some better info.
HeatherK
Fasti ecclesiae Scoticanae: the succession of ministers in the Church of Scotland. - New Edition. – Vo III. Synod of Glasgow & Ayr - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915
Fasti ecclesiae Scoticanae: the succession of ministers in the Church of Scotland. - New Edition. – Vo II. Synods of Merse and Teviotdale Dumfries & Galloway - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915
Perhaps someone else has some better info.
HeatherK
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MalcolmMalcolm wrote:While we are on the subject, does anyone have any information as to whether there are such things as church archives.
I'm looking for anything on the Rev'd George Morris who was active in Dalry, Ayreshire up to and beyond 1899. Apparently, he celebrated his ministerial jubilee during that year whilst in Dalry, but i think he must have been in Dunfermline at the beginning of his career. This information was obtained by the way from a name search on one of the digitilised newspapers discussed above.
Any further information would oblige
Malcolm Morris
Yes, there will be records, - the question for 1899 is where?, - as that's maybe a bit on the late side for National Archives of Scotland, in Edinburgh. There will be kirk session records.
But before you spend any significant amount of time sussing out where these records could be, you need to establish the "flavour" involved
It so happens that my wife's home town is Dalry, so I know it quite well, and can immediately comment that there are two Established Church of Scotland churchs, - St Margaret's (the original parish church), and Trinity. There is still an Episcopalian congregation (St Peter's ?). There was a Free Kirk congregation up until to the 1950s/60s, and there are a least a few others.
While Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae will tell you directly if the Rev George Morris was Established Church of Scotland, it won't help you if he wasn't ! This and the equivalent records of other churches will give you a neat biography of 50 to 200 words.
The way of solving this is quite simple, - to have a look at the local newspapers of the time and look for the announcements regarding Sunday services, which will give the minister's name. Dalry is regarded now as part of the North Ayrshire council, so Ardrossan would be my first port of call, see http://www.talkingscot.com/links/libraries.htm for contact details.
The Mitchell in Glasgow probably also holds the relevant newspapers.
http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/ is the web address for the Established Church of Scotland but until you know the affiliation of this minister, any contact could be premature. (Note that many Free Kirk ministers in the early decades of its formation after 1843 will, however be recorded as they trained and were ordained originally in the Established Church of Scotland.)
Davie
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Hi Malcolm
This may be totally irrelevant but I can tell you that your MORRIS relative was not associated with the Gillespie Church of Dunfermline...which as near as I can tell was actually the Free Kirk situated in Carnock. I have the ter-jubilee memorial published in 1902 which denotes the history from 1700 and there were no MORRIS Rev's in it's history.
Jean
This may be totally irrelevant but I can tell you that your MORRIS relative was not associated with the Gillespie Church of Dunfermline...which as near as I can tell was actually the Free Kirk situated in Carnock. I have the ter-jubilee memorial published in 1902 which denotes the history from 1700 and there were no MORRIS Rev's in it's history.
Jean
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MalcolmMalcolm wrote:While we are on the subject, does anyone have any information as to whether there are such things as church archives.
I'm looking for anything on the Rev'd George Morris who was active in Dalry, Ayreshire up to and beyond 1899. Apparently, he celebrated his ministerial jubilee during that year whilst in Dalry, but i think he must have been in Dunfermline at the beginning of his career. This information was obtained by the way from a name search on one of the digitilised newspapers discussed above.
Any further information would oblige
Malcolm Morris
I didn't mention earlier that I'd emailed a retired Dalry minister that we know well, - I wasn't sure if he'd moved.
He's turned up trumps for you. I quote from his email reply....
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The answer to your query is "Yes!" Operating from memory (I left all my Dalry "material" in Dalry) George Morris was minister of what is now Dalry Trinity Church - it was originally United Secession, then United Presbyterian (UP), then United Free before returning to the Auld Kirk and uniting with a small ex Free Kirk and ex Parish Church Mission. I suggest a look in the U.P. Records - the new minister at Trinity tel 01394-2363 should have a copy in his Manse (I had it on a permanent loan) and should be able to furnish you with info' - if not come back to me. A few years ago I met Morris' grandson - a seemingly prosperous lawyer (with the same surname) who lived around Bridge of Wer/Kilmacolm/Houston in Renefrewshire - it should be easy to trace him.
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