Visit to GRONI

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emamc
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Visit to GRONI

Post by emamc » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:55 pm

Hi All

I am visiting the General Records Office Northern Ireland on Tuesday 31st October. I have a lot to search for, but I am sure I could manage a few look-ups if you wish to send me information I will do what I can.

Elizabeth
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Researching names: McQuade; Lynn; McSporran; Sweeney; Madden; Smith; McIlvaine; Burns; Burgess; McFarlane; Deignan; Barr; McMurchie: Dumbarton/Glasgow/Campbeltown/Co Tyrone, Monaghan, Down, Derry and Donegal

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Post by maggie » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:32 pm

Hello Elizabeth
what a kind offer please can i take you up on it ?
i will sort out the info over the weekend and then pose my "i would like"
just wanted to be the first in the queue :roll:
kind regards
maggie

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Post by Bob Haining » Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:20 am

Hi Elizabeth,

If you have time when you’re at the GRONI, I have “look-up” for you.

From all indications, 3 census, marriage and death certificate, my Great-Grandfather, John Filson, was born in Ireland sometime between 1854 and 1858, and the folklore I have gotten (from relatives in Ayr) is that he was born in either Newtownards or Ballymena.

I have a transcription of a February 27, 1850 marriage certificate from Newtownards, County Down of what I’m certain is his Mother (Helen/Ellen Filson to John Ferrell). But I’ve had no luck finding John’s birth certificate.

Any help from you would be greatly appreciated.
Bob
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Researching: Haining, Kirkwood's from Dalmellington/Kilwinning, Filson, Goldie, Pollock.

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Re: Visit to GRONI

Post by nelmit » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:58 am

emamc wrote:Hi All

I am visiting the General Records Office Northern Ireland on Tuesday 31st October. I have a lot to search for, but I am sure I could manage a few look-ups if you wish to send me information I will do what I can.

Elizabeth
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My list would be too long for you Elizabeth but I'd love to hear how you get on as I'd like to go there myself.

Regards,
Annette M

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Post by Spider-Girl » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:22 pm

Hello Elizabeth, would also be very interested to hear how you get on as I am seriously thinking about a trip there myself.

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:28 pm

Hello Elizabeth

I've sent you a pm. with my "wish list" :lol:

If you can find anything at all that would be great.

Thanks for the kind offer.

Jean

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Post by emanday » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:17 pm

Wonderful offer, Elizabeth. However, like Annette, my list of Irish rellies would frighten you.

If I can persuade myself to make a choice (which will be like trying to pick a favourite chocolate out of a box full of favourites :lol: ), I'll PM you.
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Post by Bob Haining » Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:46 am

Hi Elizabeth,

Curious as to how you did at the GRONI; did you have any luck finding any BMD certificates for you relatives? I’ve sent you a couple of PM’s, did you receive them?
Bob
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Researching: Haining, Kirkwood's from Dalmellington/Kilwinning, Filson, Goldie, Pollock.

emamc
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Vist to Groni

Post by emamc » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:41 pm

Dear All

Very sorry for the delay in replying to your posts. While in Belfast I managed to get a very bad cold and have been struggling ever since. After a number of visits to the Doc and anti-biotics I have at least got my voice back and am begining to feel a little bit normal - if this is what normal feels!!

Despite the cold I had a great time in Belfast. We are really spoiled in Scotland. NI only have a computerised index of BDM which give the name, date and area of the event, so you have to really know, or make a good guess at the right person. The staff then bring up the actual register and let you look at the entry - not touch it - from this you can get the reference number to apply for the certificate. £10 covers your seat and 5 free look-ups. For every other look-up you have to pay £2.50. From the register you get a reference number, and as the staff did not have to search for the record the certificate only cost £5. They do not issue certificates on the day they said it would take 3 days and would send it to my home - I waited 3 weeks for them to come. You can get a member of staff to assist your search, and this gives you more access to the register, but it costs £24 per hour. I was lucky I had dates etc from IGI so had a good idea that I had the right people. Unfortunately I used all my free look-ups on family, but for those who asked me I do have some information and will send you PM's to-night when I have all my information at my finger-tips.

The National Archives were much better than GRONI - they are in South Belfast, but just a 15 minute bus journey from the centre of the city. The staff were excellent, they kept giving suggestions, why not try this, here have a look at this, and digging out information for me. Access to all the information was free, among other things they have the 1901 Census, and Catholic Parish records for Northern Ireland - some going back to 1820. I was unlucky on the census, as the streets my rellies lived on had not been transcribed. On the Catholic parishes I had better luck. I guessed from Census returns that my GGGrandfather was born around 1825-1827. The parish records for his area were available and I found his name born on 1st October 1825, along with that of his cousing, I was delighted.

I enjoyed the whole experience and would advise people to really do their homework before they visit and not expect too much. I do think that the Archives are much better than GRONI. The room at GRONI is very small and they only have about 10 computers, but the staff were nice and tried to be helpful, but I got the feeling - maybe wrongly - that they had been taken by surprise by all the interest and were nor really user friendly. the archives have two large rooms, wills are computerised, and most other information is on micro-feche or registers. I spent a great day there.
Researching names: McQuade; Lynn; McSporran; Sweeney; Madden; Smith; McIlvaine; Burns; Burgess; McFarlane; Deignan; Barr; McMurchie: Dumbarton/Glasgow/Campbeltown/Co Tyrone, Monaghan, Down, Derry and Donegal

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Re: Vist to Groni

Post by SarahND » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:21 pm

emamc wrote:While in Belfast I managed to get a very bad cold and have been struggling ever since. After a number of visits to the Doc and anti-biotics I have at least got my voice back and am begining to feel a little bit normal - if this is what normal feels!!
Just what happened to me when I got to Scotland :? Do you think there are some ancestors out there who just don't want to be found and are playing tricks trying to keep us away from the records? :lol:

Thanks for the details on visiting GRONI and the National Archives. It will help many of us when we get around to going there. My ggg grandfather lived in Belfast from about 1818-1837 and I'm hoping to find some traces. Do you know if they have old directories from that far back?

Hope you get over that cold!
Sarah