Hi all, after the major revelations that were on display only a few days ago, "with bated breath" is, I expect, the only description of those following this intrigue!
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This might be a little too hasty, but here goes:
How many here have a DC where the parents are said to be deceased, but one or both are alive and kicking? (And again I am looking for positive replies!).
In my instance, the unfortunate 35 year old (my gr.gr.grandfather) was a constable in Inveraray, d.1856. His mother lives up the road in Kilmelfort, but a sheriff´s officer is the informant. He has the names of the parents correct, but as far as I can see, mother Cath*rine is still with us, then, but considerable doubt about the father´s continuing presence, Patrick, or Peter, as he was known, see above URL. And "Burial Place" is in her back yard, Kilmelfort, if one may be a little irreverent after 150 years.
As my wife said today, on hearing of this slight hiccup in The Tree, "are you sure it´s not all a total fiasco?" (Her own Icelandic tree is 100% documented for the past 600years and online, except of course for the various slips of the limb which are not for public consumption).
Looking for support and a totally positive response,
Thrall
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DCs and their verisimilitude.
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Hello Thrall,
my great-grandmother seemed to be a reliable person: she was accurate about her age at census time and with the details of deaths for which she was informant. Yet her marriage in 1891 has her father reported as deceased, but she is informant to his death in 1901. He died in a poorhouse, so she may have been ashamed or lied to, but these anomalies do happen.
Regards,
John
my great-grandmother seemed to be a reliable person: she was accurate about her age at census time and with the details of deaths for which she was informant. Yet her marriage in 1891 has her father reported as deceased, but she is informant to his death in 1901. He died in a poorhouse, so she may have been ashamed or lied to, but these anomalies do happen.
Regards,
John
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I had a problem the other way round - I spent a blinking fortune on SP following a mention on a marriage document that my ggg grandmother, as mother of one of the parties being married, was still alive ...well, OK, it just didn't say "deceased", which led me to believe she was still alive.
She clearly was not, as I found out a good while later, on the marriage documents of her other children. Still the best I have been able to come up with for her is that she died somewhere between 1829 (her youngest child) and 1855! Ha, but what about the census I hear you ask???? Not been able to find the blighters. The only mention which looked likely in 1841 suggested the family was already dispersed (what appears to be just the father and one daughter living together) and no sign of her. Suspect d.o.d was between 1829-41
Best wishes
Lesley
She clearly was not, as I found out a good while later, on the marriage documents of her other children. Still the best I have been able to come up with for her is that she died somewhere between 1829 (her youngest child) and 1855! Ha, but what about the census I hear you ask???? Not been able to find the blighters. The only mention which looked likely in 1841 suggested the family was already dispersed (what appears to be just the father and one daughter living together) and no sign of her. Suspect d.o.d was between 1829-41
Best wishes
Lesley
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Hi
I sometimes wonder about the verity of everything I have on my tree as I know for a fact that my Grandfather deliberately named his grandparents as his parents on his marriage certificate and my own father when informing pa in law's death followed suit, no doubt simply honouring what he believed Grandpa would have wanted.
That's why I made my heroine Sarah do likewise in my little tale.
Goes to show that you never really know what was true or not. At least Grandpa was born in 1897 so there was a BC with the correct info on it as far as it went. Anyway I'd known the 'truth' since I was a child. If you're dealing with people born pre 1855 you really are relying on some possibly duff information.
Anne
I sometimes wonder about the verity of everything I have on my tree as I know for a fact that my Grandfather deliberately named his grandparents as his parents on his marriage certificate and my own father when informing pa in law's death followed suit, no doubt simply honouring what he believed Grandpa would have wanted.
That's why I made my heroine Sarah do likewise in my little tale.
Goes to show that you never really know what was true or not. At least Grandpa was born in 1897 so there was a BC with the correct info on it as far as it went. Anyway I'd known the 'truth' since I was a child. If you're dealing with people born pre 1855 you really are relying on some possibly duff information.
Anne
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Hi All
I had the same problem that Lesley had. On my grandparents Marriage Cert, it stated that my grandfather's father was alive, but that his mother was deceased. It gave the names of my grandmother's parents but didn't say that they were deceased.
I assumed that they were alive, and spent many credits looking for my grandmothers parents, till I found out that they were both deceased at the time of her marriage. My grandmother had been orphaned by the age of 15. My grandfather's father was alive at the time of my grandfather's wedding.
It just goes to show that you can't take anything for granted.
Regards
Sheila
I had the same problem that Lesley had. On my grandparents Marriage Cert, it stated that my grandfather's father was alive, but that his mother was deceased. It gave the names of my grandmother's parents but didn't say that they were deceased.
It just goes to show that you can't take anything for granted.
Regards
Sheila
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Hi all, and thank you for your positive responses - I feel a little better about this inaccuracy; if only there had been a poorhouse or asylum involved, and not a "sheriff´s officer"!; he was however "present" so perhaps a friend, but then less likely not to have heard about "Mum" up the road, and even had a message for her......................
Speculation getting the upper hand here, so as with Anne´s tree, a faint question mark will probably remain until more confirmation appears, if in fact it is findable. I´ve been fortunate to date, with this my first really conflicting evidence.................
Advent starts in nine minutes, so a Santa is I hope permissible.
Guid hunting,
Thrall
Speculation getting the upper hand here, so as with Anne´s tree, a faint question mark will probably remain until more confirmation appears, if in fact it is findable. I´ve been fortunate to date, with this my first really conflicting evidence.................
Guid hunting,
Thrall